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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 07:48 PM
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Intermittant rough running

r01 7.3 runs rough intermittently for a while now (over a year). It is worse when first started but will do it though out the day. While sitting idling it kinda sounds like romp romp romp then normal then romp romp romp more of an advance/rev rather than a miss. It does this throughout the rpm range and gears/speeds. Can't really see the rpm needle change, maybe vibrate a little.
One thing I did notice, the other day I towed a 12,000 lb load for an hour trip and it had near quit about 10-15 miles down the road half hour later it was pretty well gone. That afternoon towing back I don't recall it doing it.
Following days normal driving it started coming back but not quite as bad as before trip. two wks later now its probably back as it was. A few months ago when towing same load it did the same thing, I just thought it coincidental at the time, but I don't think it was coincidental now.

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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 07:54 PM
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It kind of sounds like fuel starvation but at idle it shouldn't be an issue. How's your fuel filter and fuel tank pickup? How many miles on the truck?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 08:00 PM
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It is probably loudest or most significant at idle, but still does it under acceleration. Havn't messed with anything in the fuel system. 246k miles.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 08:02 PM
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Injectors could be going south, what oil are you using?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 08:18 PM
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I don't know what oil the shop used.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 09:42 PM
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Unplugged the ICP sensor and looked for oil in the electrical connector?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2019 | 10:31 PM
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Codes. What is the engine trying to tell us?

Otherwise, if we're just wild guessing, I'm gonna go with low HPOP pressure.
 
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X2 on pull ICP sensor wire and look for oil at the connection. Oil indicates sensor is dying, time for new. Ford or IH is pricey but aftermarket is often crapola. OE for sensors is the mantra.

Also the harness that goes over the driver side valve cover, it can chafe on the VC and cause intermittent shorts. Pull off 42 pin connection or otherwise inspect the underside of the harness. VC should show evidence of arcing there too.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2019 | 06:16 AM
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Codes. What is the engine trying to tell us?

Otherwise, if we're just wild guessing, I'm gonna go with low HPOP pressure.
They have checked the codes 2-3 times and nothing.
 
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They have checked the codes 2-3 times and nothing.
Have to ask the silly question.... You are using a code reader that works on diesel engines ??
 
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Old Jan 14, 2019 | 07:15 AM
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Have to ask the silly question.... You are using a code reader that works on diesel engines ??
Yes, Its an automotive repair shop that scanned it.
 
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So far you have good suggestions. Our trucks are no typical vehicles and many scanners won't work on them, verifying that your shop's does would be a prudent move.
 
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Also the harness that goes over the driver side valve cover, it can chafe on the VC and cause intermittent shorts. Pull off 42 pin connection or otherwise inspect the underside of the harness. VC should show evidence of arcing there too.
Just had chance to check, the harness has worn the paint from the valve cover but there is no chaffing on the wires. Going to zip tie a piece of heater hose or something there to prevent the problem in the future though.
 
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Would any of these problems (other than wire chaffing) throw a code?
 
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Pulled ICP sensor plug and it is full of oil. But running it with sensor unplugged nothing changed. If that was the problem wouldn't it have cleared up?
 
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