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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 05:24 AM
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Do I need a weighted Tag for my F350? Only going to tow a travel trailer with it.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 08:03 AM
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The tag, from what I understand last time I spoke with DMV, has to cover the weight of the truck, the trailer and all contents including fuel, people, etc. So most likely you will at least need a personal weighted tag, probably a commercial, dependent on what the Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR) is of your combo. I believe I run a 12 or 15 K on my F-150, so that I'm covered to tow the jeep on the trailer.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 06:05 PM
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You most definitely will need a weighted tag. NC HP pulled me over and checked me out while pulling my boat to the coast last summer. One of his major sticking points was quote “all you guys buying these big trucks and not getting a heavy enough tag for them”. It’s not the weight it’s obviously a money thing. My advice would be to do like me and get a minimum of a 15k lb tag that way you should be covered unless you’ve got a monster fifth wheel TT or something. That and don’t get a commercial tag unless you must, then you’ll be ask to pull through our fine state’s weigh stations and that’s not ever a good thing. I mean not in my idea anyway, but I am a truck driver.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 05:06 AM
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OK thanks for info. Yeah I didn't know better and got a 20000 tag. I don't think its commercial. Its the white tag not the first in flight one. Almost ran me $400! Registration is up next month so I will definitely alter it. All I tow is a 26 foot travel trailer and found out those are exempt from weight anyway. I didn't know if the truck by itself still needed one.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 08:15 AM
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Where did you find the information on the travel trailer is exempt from weight? I know that some places have different rules on travel trailers with sleeping\kitchen\bathrooms, but was not aware that NC did as well. 20K does sound like a lot, but when you consider that the truck probably weights 7k (assuming an F350), then 13k can be eaten up by a 30 ft trailer pretty quick. I'm in the middle of attempting to purchase a TT or fiver, and I will definitely go with a tag that is the combined GVWR for the setup, as I do not wish to get caught with an underweight tag. Those fines are a little excessive, from my understanding.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 04:28 PM
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I found this online:

In North Carolina, a vehicle that is towing anything other than a recreational vehicle (such as a pull-along camper) is required to have a weighted plate when towing. If you are pulling a camper, you don’t need a weighted plate. But you’ll probably need one if you are pulling a utility trailer or boat trailer, depending on the weight. I found this on myreporter.com. I also saw this on the NCDMV website.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2019 | 04:42 AM
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I think the sleeping/kitchen/bathroom thing is for considering a tow-vehicle such as a toter-home an RV. I couldn't find any of the rules on the DMV website, only the fee schedule - where did you find the information about the camper not needing weighted plates? I only found a table with the fee schedules for trucks and another for for-hire passenger transport. There doesn't appear to be a distinction between private and commercial truck weighted tags. From what I understand, the truck weighted tag should cover the entire combined weight of truck and trailer. I don't think type of trailer matters.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2019 | 05:16 AM
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Camper needs the weighted plates. I was referring to wether the Truck needed them or not. I won't be towing anything other than the camper.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2019 | 09:29 AM
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So posted up some information for you, but of course, something happened, and my posts haven't been going through. So let me see if I can find the links again.

NC Statute covering registration

Statute - Property Hauling

As you can see in that second link. The weighted tag is for the propulsion unit (ie the truck). It doesn't provide any exceptions for a camper\rv\house trailer.

The declared gross weight of self-propelled property-carrying vehicles operated in conjunction with trailers or semitrailers shall include the empty weight of the vehicles to be operated in the combination and the heaviest load to be transported by such combination at any time during the registration period, except that the gross weight of a trailer or semitrailer is not required to be included when the operation is to be in conjunction with a self-propelled property-carrying vehicle which is licensed for 6,000 pounds or less gross weight and the gross weight of such combination does not exceed 9,000 pounds,
That is taken straight from the General North Carolina statute
 
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Old Jan 12, 2019 | 07:18 AM
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Josh, that's what I remembered, just didn't have time to look it up this morning.

I think RVs (motorhomes, not camper trailers) and multi-purpose vehicles (i.e. SUVs) are not considered property-carrying vehicles and would not be required to have weighted tags.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2019 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by EPNCSU2006
Josh, that's what I remembered, just didn't have time to look it up this morning.

I think RVs (motorhomes, not camper trailers) and multi-purpose vehicles (i.e. SUVs) are not considered property-carrying vehicles and would not be required to have weighted tags.
Don’t know. I’ve not looked into rules concerning motor homes, just trailers. It makes sense that they are governed by different rules. But my takeaway here is truck =!propulsion unit = tag weighted for maximum of the vehicle and any towed item. Trailer = not based on weight.

Oh and if it’s an SUV it still counts as a propulsion unit, so I didn’t see any exceptions for that. But it could be covered somewhere else.
 
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There is no such thing as a ToterHome in N.C. anymore. If it has a hitch, it is a truck and is to be licensed and insured as such.

I have my Excursion registered as passenger carrying and not property carrying(SUV's can be registered either way). I run a regular car tag on it and as long as long as its a camper or boat I.'m within the law. However if I decide to hook a car trailer to it, I'm gonna be in big trouble.

From what I was told from a DOT officer a property carrying vehicle is allowed 3000lbs forgiveness if pulling a recreational unit.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 10:33 AM
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Ah, so an SUV is not (sometimes) registered as a property carrying vehicle, and has different rules based on that. It does make sense.

But we have gotten away from the OP's original question, which was about an F350, which is a property carrying vehicle.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 02:35 PM
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We use to get away with the "Recreational use" with the mud trucks, however they've changed all that now. According to the officer I spoke with a couple days ago, even a boat is no longer Recreational in their eyes, only campers. If you're only pulling a camper it is considered Recreational and does not require a weighted tag to pull it. ~ Again that was per the DMV officer I spoke with last week.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FordxFour
There is no such thing as a ToterHome in N.C. anymore. If it has a hitch, it is a truck and is to be licensed and insured as such.

I have my Excursion registered as passenger carrying and not property carrying(SUV's can be registered either way). I run a regular car tag on it and as long as long as its a camper or boat I.'m within the law. However if I decide to hook a car trailer to it, I'm gonna be in big trouble.

From what I was told from a DOT officer a property carrying vehicle is allowed 3000lbs forgiveness if pulling a recreational unit.
I pull my car trailer with the Ex with regular tags, since it is my trailer and I am hauling my personal cars, not for hire my understanding is that is legal. The DMV officer I talked to also said that since it is not for hire I can bypass weigh stations. In NC an Ex is registered as a station wagon.
 
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