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Old Jan 5, 2019 | 04:42 PM
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You need to go to private A or B depending on if the actual vehicle is over 26001, how many passengers, or the gross combined combo is over 26001. At least that’s here and most states are pretty similar except a few *****.


The SRW 350 is rated for over 26001 GCWR.

Ergos, I could get a 16 year old in my F250 and pull a 30 ft loaded goose neck to Dallas. Have him drive an unloaded 27000 lbs dumptruck to the gas station and it’s the same as an F350.

The guy in the video wasn’t really factual for the most part. Just get an F250 and register it for more payload? Save your money?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2019 | 10:54 AM
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Loving this discussion, as it pertains to exactly why I joined this forum. I live in Indiana, and am looking to upgrade my F150 for towing my 31' travel trailer. Dry weight the trailer is 5860 or so and its GVWR is 7450#. When loaded, it has weighed right around 6800#, but the tongue weight plus passengers put my truck at 7060#. 60# above the GVWR of my F150. All these weights were done on Cat scales at the local truck stop. In this case where the GVWR of the truck was 60# heavy, neither axle surpassed the ratings on my door jamb sticker, and the GCWR of 18700 was also not exceeded. An F250 with a little more payload capacity can get the job done, but I have been trying to figure out whether to get the 250 or go for a 350 in case we upgrade into a heavier trailer or fifth wheel in 2 years when the kids are out of school and potentially out of the household. Everything I have read on www.fleet.Ford.com/towing-guides/ points to getting my moneys' worth with the 350 rather than trying to squeak by on the 250. Looking forward to reading more on this topic here
 
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Old Jan 7, 2019 | 11:13 AM
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I always was taught once you hook to the trailer you watch your axle weights, GCWR, and your total registered amount; all not to be exceeded. I could be wrong but if I’m right then that guy in the video is all wrong. But he’d still probably think I have the wrong truck “F250” to pull a nearly 40ft keystone cougar I was looking at buying.

I know around here they jack with people pulling dual tandem gooseneck trailers because it puts you over automatically where you would need a different license. Of course you could drop the registered payload amount but that may raise some suspicion and lead you to a weigh station.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2019 | 12:26 PM
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According to what I've been told by one DOT guy, with my 2001 F350, I could weigh 32,030 lbs (front - 5200, rear 6830, trailer 2 x 10k). Truck was rated by Ford at 20k GCWR, 9900 GVWR..

But when a I read that in 2014, DOT ruled your max weight was the manufacturers GCWR, or the GVWR of the vehicle and GVWR of the trailer, whichever is greater.
Therefore, my '01 F350 would be legal to 9900 + 20k = 29900.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2019 | 04:39 PM
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The difference is usually a different spring pack in the rear... but for me I wanted to be legal and picked up the F350. No difference in TN for registration fees, but as a bonus I no longer have to go and get the emissions tested! -Vehicles greater than 10,5K are exempt from testing in TN - wahoo! Wish I had known that when I bought my 15 3/4T.
No emission testing on any vehicle in TN.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2019 | 05:32 PM
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I agree with this. My F250 has a combined gross axle weight rating of 11500 lbs. My payload should be 11500lbs so long as neither axle weight rating is exceeded. But to keep the truck in the class 2 rating it's rated at the 10000lb max.
Payload is your GVWR minus the weight of your vehicle. When you add your front gross axle weight rating (GAWR) and your rear GAWR it should equal your GVWR. You will have this info on one of the stickers on the inside of your door. The other sticker with tire pressure information shows your cargo weight capacity. It will have the weight of the vehicle when it came off the manufacturing line and it will subtract that weight from the GVWR to give the payload (cargo carrying capacity). The sticker would say something like "the combined weight of the passengers and cargo should never exceed XXXXX kg (XXXXXlbs)"
 
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Old Jan 7, 2019 | 08:59 PM
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The registered GVWR is under the combined axle ratings on the super duty.

It will take more than the factory registered GVWR, you just need to let your road/tax authorities know so you can register and license properly (one of the primary differences between a 350 and 250).
 
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