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Old 12-17-2018, 08:56 PM
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Looking new, wondering value

2018&2019 diesel super duty models are roughly $10000 more than their gasser cousins. $9100 for the engine and the additional items associated like the plug and supplemental heater $100 & $245.

What was the difference between the 6.0 versus the v8 and v10?

It looks like a seller would do better in a private sale vs trading in to a Ford dealer.

Thank you for the help!
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Not real sure what exactly you are asking about. Gas vs. diesel in a new truck? 6.0 is pre 2008, and V10 is pre 2011. Trade in what? Please clarify what exactly you need.
 
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Originally Posted by tomsoftail
It looks like a seller would do better in a private sale vs trading in to a Ford dealer.
Well, yeah. It's never even a close call. I'm 61 years old and have NEVER traded in a vehicle. I usually get a quote, but only after I've nailed down the price without a trade. It's never even close to what I get on a private sale. The last one, I got almost 4 times what the dealer offered me. There's a reason that the first question a salesperson asks is "Are you going to trade in your whatever?" That lets them know to not discount the listed price to make it appear that you get more for your trade. The salesman on that last vehicle actually said "If I hadn't discounted it up front, I could give you more for your trade."...yeah right.

 
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Originally Posted by edjunior
Not real sure what exactly you are asking about. Gas vs. diesel in a new truck? 6.0 is pre 2008, and V10 is pre 2011. Trade in what? Please clarify what exactly you need.
I added the word diesel. Thanks for that, it really was vague without it.

Question is: what was the extra cost of the diesel in 2007, 2009?? Extra cost of diesel versus gasoline.
 
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Likely less, but why is this even an issue? You're not going to get 2009 prices on a 2018 6.7L Diesel.
 
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Originally Posted by tomsoftail
I added the word diesel. Thanks for that, it really was vague without it.

Question is: what was the extra cost of the diesel in 2007, 2009?? Extra cost of diesel versus gasoline.
It's been about a $10,000 option for a long time. I didn't buy mine new but the diesel option for my year added about $10K to the cost over the 5.4L. I'm sure the 6.8L V10 option was only a few hundred dollars to the MSRP (compared to the base 5.4L) for my year.
 
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Old 12-18-2018, 11:46 AM
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Thank you Brian. I was wondering because looking at current vehicles in my area in Craigslist it seems that similarly equipped f350 trucks that the diesel is about $5000 more than the gasser.

It's been about 10g the whole time.

Than you again!!
 
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It's been about a $10,000 option for a long time. I didn't buy mine new but the diesel option for my year added about $10K to the cost over the 5.4L. I'm sure the 6.8L V10 option was only a few hundred dollars to the MSRP (compared to the base 5.4L) for my year.
IIRC most V10 upgrades over 5.4L were around $400. Literally can't imagine not buying that option for any sort of work truck that didn't require diesel.
 
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Old 12-18-2018, 02:55 PM
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IIRC most V10 upgrades over 5.4L were around $400. Literally can't imagine not buying that option for any sort of work truck that didn't require diesel.
For us it seems a no-brainer.

My wife's Jeep Liberty is a 4x4. The original owners bought it (new) to tow behind their motorhome. The 4x4 option provided a way to electronically disconnect the drivetrain to tow it on the ground. They ponied up for the Limited model with premium trim and leather. For an additional $300 (MSRP) they could have gotten the off-road package and had skid plates, a power steering cooler, and better shocks. Again, a no-brainer in my book if I'm already shelling out over $30K+ for a vehicle.
 
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Originally Posted by I.B. Washincars
Well, yeah. It's never even a close call. I'm 61 years old and have NEVER traded in a vehicle. I usually get a quote, but only after I've nailed down the price without a trade. It's never even close to what I get on a private sale. The last one, I got almost 4 times what the dealer offered me. There's a reason that the first question a salesperson asks is "Are you going to trade in your whatever?" That lets them know to not discount the listed price to make it appear that you get more for your trade. The salesman on that last vehicle actually said "If I hadn't discounted it up front, I could give you more for your trade."...yeah right.
you got 4 times what the dealer quoted you in a private sale? How low did the dealer offer you for someone to pay 4 times the dealers offer?
 
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you got 4 times what the dealer quoted you in a private sale? How low did the dealer offer you for someone to pay 4 times the dealers offer?
Yep, I was ordering a new '08. We agreed on a price and I gave them the order. My wife worked at the dealership, so I was in and out of there a few times before the truck came in. On one of those visits I asked them to shoot me a trade price for my 99 Dodge 4X4. It was in very good shape, but had 253K on the odometer. They offered me $1200. I sold it later for $4500.

 
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Yep, I was ordering a new '08. We agreed on a price and I gave them the order. My wife worked at the dealership, so I was in and out of there a few times before the truck came in. On one of those visits I asked them to shoot me a trade price for my 99 Dodge 4X4. It was in very good shape, but had 253K on the odometer. They offered me $1200. I sold it later for $4500.
Wow good deal on your part but I would have been pretty PO’d if I got a trade offer like that.
 
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Wow good deal on your part but I would have been pretty PO’d if I got a trade offer like that.
Most people get offers like that every day, but just don't realize it. When they ask that initial question "Are you going to trade in your 3-legged, one-eyed unicorn you rode in on?", just give them a BS answer like "No, I already have it sold to my next-door neighbor's, niece's, cousin's, step-dad's, ex-wife's, brother's, boss," or something similar. Then you can get down to the actual price of the vehicle.
 
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you got 4 times what the dealer quoted you in a private sale? How low did the dealer offer you for someone to pay 4 times the dealers offer?

Same thing happened to me when I bought my 2012 F350. I had a 2002 F250 7.3 crew cab short bed with 250k miles that I tried to trade in. The best offer I got from 4 different dealerships was $3,500. I told them no and sold it on Craigslist in 6 days for $15,000. Private party will usually work better for the seller.
 
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Originally Posted by 89LX306
Same thing happened to me when I bought my 2012 F350. I had a 2002 F250 7.3 crew cab short bed with 250k miles that I tried to trade in. The best offer I got from 4 different dealerships was $3,500. I told them no and sold it on Craigslist in 6 days for $15,000. Private party will usually work better for the seller.
Especially for a 7.3L. People are still looking to get one in decent shape. I regularly see them for sale for $15K+ around here.
 
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