Since a few folks are hell bent for leather to blame the 6.0 on downward Super Duty values I thought I would do a little research at Kelly Blue Book.

I used 2003 as the MY as the big three Ford engines were all available. All spec's were based on my truck so I wouldn't forget anything. Dead to rights even up...engines are the only difference...

Private Party Values:

V-10 $ 21,300
7.3 $ 26,200
6.0 $ 26,500

G M $ 26,900
Ram $ 25,600

First, I think it is interesting that the difference between the V -10 and either diesel is almost identical to the difference at new list price.

When you look at the competition you see that all diesel values seem to bunched pretty close together. Within a few hundred dollars of each other.

To me, this dispels the notion that the 6.0 is loosing value. And if it is, it is not attributable the what the bashers would call "junk" engines. Again, evidenced by diesel values across the board.

Now with all this said, I am not endorsing theses #'s as being carved in stone. As we all know the market is changing daily and on a regional level. Whatever the true value is in your town, the relationship between the vehicles should be the same.

I am sure I will be attacked on this but the criteria is unbiased and the #'s are the #'s.

Try it yourself.

 

kw, I won't bash you, I think its a pretty good post.

 

refreshingly good post


BE

 

You are always on top of being far

 

Probably "fair" too.

 

I don't sell trucks for a living, but I did recently sell my 99 Super Duty 7.3 to buy a new one. I didn't get what I originally thought I would, but I didn't give it away either. I don't think anyone questioned the quality of the truck or engine. I think the reason for dropping resale price of Super Dutys is because of:

1. High price of gas and diesel fuel causing more trucks to be put on the market and fewer people buy them right now. When was the last time you remember diesel costing more than premium gas?

2. Lot of existing Super Duty owners buying new Super Dutys, putting more used Super Dutys out there.

3. New Super Dutys selling cheap. You can now buy a new Super Duty as cheap as what you'd pay for a year old one.

They're not bad trucks. It's just a buyers market right now.

 

You'd think that as fuel prices continue to climb, those who really need a truck would be more inclined to go with the diesel for the improved fuel economy.

Even if diesel is uncharacteristically priced higher than regular right now, the diesel still gets the nod in most cases as its fuel mileage still more than makes up for that difference.

There are several guys at work with V10s and they almost cry when the hear the kind of mileage I'm getting. They like their truck but hate the sight of a gas station.

 

You must also take into account the fact that there was an additional $1500 for the torque shift tranny. In that case they have dropped in value compared to the 7.3 . But even with my problems I would still rather have a problematic 6.0 than a 7.3 with the old automatic.
just my opinion.
Good Day

 

The 4R100 was also an option like the torqshift; they have always been standard with a manual. If I'm not mistaken the 4R100 was a 1200 dollar option in 2003MY with a 7.3, so there's only a 300 dollar difference.

 

Correct but the 6.0 was a 3500 mark up and the tranny was 1500 for a total of 5000. and when I bought mine (one of the first ones "call me stupid") Dec of 2002 they were 1500 over the 7.3 with the auto.

 

This is what my truck came up as in this area i paid 37k for it new *shrug* i dont see a huge loss of value

Nice post KW

August 12, 2005 print this vehicle report


Average Trade-In Average Retail
Base Price

$22,675 $26,000

Mileage

30,000 miles N/A
N/A

Options

4 Wheel Drive (Std. F150 FX4) $2,900 $3,125
6.0L V8 Turbo Diesel Engine $5,300 $5,525
Add Running Boards $150 $175
Add Snow Plow Package/Plow $1,075 $1,200
Add Trailer Towing/Camper Pkg. $200 $250
Compact Disc Player (XL) $150 $175
FX4 Off-Road Pkg. (Super Duty) $325 $375
Lariat Trim (Super Duty) $2,775 $3,000
Power Sunroof $625 $700

TOTAL PRICE $36,175
$40,525 *



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and the v-10
August 12, 2005 print this vehicle report


Average Trade-In Average Retail
Base Price

$22,675 $26,000

Mileage

30,000 miles N/A
N/A

Options

4 Wheel Drive (Std. F150 FX4) $2,900 $3,125
6.8L V10 Engine $500 $575
Add Running Boards $150 $175
Add Snow Plow Package/Plow $1,075 $1,200
Add Trailer Towing/Camper Pkg. $200 $250
Compact Disc Player (XL) $150 $175
FX4 Off-Road Pkg. (Super Duty) $325 $375
Lariat Trim (Super Duty) $2,775 $3,000
Power Sunroof $625 $700

TOTAL PRICE $31,375
$35,575 *

 

How do you all think the 6.4L Twin Turbo will effect the value of our 6.0's if that engine is released?

 

First off, I have not yet seen a Ford confirmation that it will be a 6.4 (probably will be from what we all have read here, though).

The bigger impact will be on '06 MY sales period, if the anticipated early '07 MY release actually happens.

IMO, the new engine will not drive down the used 6.0 or 7.3 market any more than we would expect to be normal. Fuel prices, however, will knock them all down a pretty big notch.

The so called soccer Mom's will get out of the trucks and SUV's and back into the higher mileage and more accommodating mini-vans and mini-SUV's. As stated before, this will certainly have an impact on used diesel truck pricing. More used diesels hitting the market but, not being picked off the lots.

Since we are on the subject...I can even see where typical 1/2 and 3/4 ton casual owners will forsake the BIG DAWG truck and rent or borrow one when they have a need.

Again, leaving more used trucks (gas and diesel) sitting on the lots.

In any case, we may see values diminish more than we like but, it will not be as a result of the 6.0 engine.

Just my honest opinion....of course.

 

Be interesting to see what happens to new truck prices if people start staying away from larger trucks in droves.

The factories might have to start cutting back those hefty margains and us die hards who really need/want them may get a price break at the dealer.

But then again I guess we'd be suffering on selling the used truck we're moving out of.

On edit - just hit post 2000, finally

 

Hey Daryl...you finally hit 2,000 posts. I remember when you got excited about hitting 1,000.