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Old Dec 18, 2018 | 11:37 AM
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Yes, the small (or lack of) cab steps are 1965/66 2WD and 1966 f100 4x4. None of those were 114" wheelbase so the tag on the door is not applicable to the cab. It might match the frame VIN stamping and title, but if so then you'd be looking at a cab with the newer style mounts on a frame with the older style supports, which is not an easy task in itself.

A picture of the front wheel well looking at the front cab mounts and frame supports would also be a good one to help ID. So far the cab, and inner fenders from the description, are 1965/66 era.

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Old Dec 18, 2018 | 11:46 AM
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Here's a picture of a truck with cab steps just as a comparison for anyone reading this thread. These cabs were

1961-1964 All and 1965 F100/250 4WD and 1966 F250 4WD and 1965/66 F350 plus the bigger trucks that used a conventional cab.



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Old Dec 18, 2018 | 12:01 PM
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Does this help - you can see the inner fender, it's very boxy and squared off looking. Below pic you can kinda see a cab mount on the passenger side.



 
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Old Dec 18, 2018 | 12:06 PM
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Yup, me thinks the Data Plate came off a different truck, so I'd be checking to see if the VIN on the data plate matches the VIN on the Frame

see link below for VIN location on frame rail

Finding Your Truck's VIN - FORDification.com




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Old Dec 18, 2018 | 12:08 PM
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***Notice front cab mounts are BOLTED to frame??
 
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Old Dec 18, 2018 | 12:11 PM
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This gets a little deep, but the 1961-1964 cabs would have the black domed cover seen in this picture just below the solenoid on the firewall - or a flat plate if no heater.



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Old Dec 18, 2018 | 12:12 PM
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I can do that this weekend perhaps. What information would it tell me? It already seems apparent this truck had a cab swap at some point.

EDIT: yes i do see the mount is bolted. Ok so if i check the frame vin (hopefully it matches the Door plate Vin) and that was conclude someone swapped cabs...

For that "heater dome" i dont have a pic of that area but i dont recall that in the engine bay. Truck does have a heater. works well!
 
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Old Dec 18, 2018 | 12:19 PM
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I'd take a hard look at the front axle rear spring mount shackle upper attaching point, too. If it's original then it could be a 1964 leaf spring frame used with a 1965/66 cab and cab mounts. The front shackle looks like it was welded onto a newer piece of material up front.

Cool little rig. Definitely a bit franken, but once you figure out what all is there it looks like a fun one!

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Old Dec 18, 2018 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TA455HO
I'd take a hard look at the front axle rear spring mount shackle upper attaching point, too. If it's original then it could be a 1964 leaf spring frame used with a 1965/66 cab and cab mounts. The front shackle looks like it was welded onto a newer piece of material up front.

Cool little rig. Definitely a bit franken, but once you figure out what all is there it looks like a fun one!

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THIS I actually know lol. It had a solid axle swap. The shackle mounts are welded on and the old radius arm mounts are still attached to the frame.

It is a cool rig. Someone made it what they wanted it to be and I can dig that. And also since it's so franken'd I dont mind adding my own flare to it.
 
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Probably not a concern, but just so you are aware. The picture that James posted shows the location of the "hidden" VIN stampings. Those are what *should* compare to the title VIN in order to be legal in all 50 states. I suspect it is fairly rare that it would come up, but possibly if you were to try to sell it to someone else that was checking such details. Some states make a vehicle coming from out of state get inspected by the state patrol or some group like that and they do look at that in some cases.

*F10CR472848* can't be factory stamped on a frame with radius arm mounts.

Just an FYI, if nothing else....

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Old Dec 18, 2018 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TA455HO
Probably not a concern, but just so you are aware. The picture that James posted shows the location of the "hidden" VIN stampings. Those are what *should* compare to the title VIN in order to be legal in all 50 states. I suspect it is fairly rare that it would come up, but possibly if you were to try to sell it to someone else that was checking such details. Some states make a vehicle coming from out of state get inspected by the state patrol or some group like that and they do look at that in some cases.

*F10CR472848* can't be factory stamped on a frame with radius arm mounts.

Just an FYI, if nothing else....

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Why can't my VIN be be stamped on my frame?
 
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Old Dec 18, 2018 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SixtyFour
Why can't my VIN be be stamped on my frame?
That VIN is a 1964 number and frames with radius arm mounts are 1965 or newer. Just saying the factory wouldn't have stamped a 1964 number on a 1965 or later frame.

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Old Dec 18, 2018 | 02:52 PM
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That VIN is a 1964 number and frames with radius arm mounts are 1965 or newer. Just saying the factory wouldn't have stamped a 1964 number on a 1965 or later frame.

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Ah. Maybe i misspoke calling them radius arms - there are mounts on the frame with large circular holes that I assumed would be rad arm mounts. But maybe theyre something else.

What kind of 2wd suspension would a '64 frame have?
 
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Originally Posted by SixtyFour
Ah. Maybe i misspoke calling them radius arms - they are mounts on the frame with large holes/circles that I assumed would be rad arm mounts. What kind of 2wd suspension would a '64 have?
1964 2WD would have been front leaf springs same as 4WD.

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Old Dec 18, 2018 | 03:11 PM
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Wellll I guess there's nothing '64 about this truck then. I'll check for a frame VIN this weekend and get a pic of the rad arm mounts.

Going back a sec - why is my cab mount bolted on then if the frame would be '65? Wouldn't that match?
 
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