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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 07:47 PM
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Evening folks. I bought some Ridge Grappler 37x12.5x20 on Black Friday from discount tire. They finally came in, went down to the shop to get them installed and they wouldn’t install on my factory 20 inch rims.

Have you guys seen/experienced this before? They said the min from Nitto allows for install on an 8.5 inch rim. I guess the factory lariat ultimate 20 is only 8 wide?? Help...
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 07:54 PM
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Sorry no help is available. You will indeed be fortunate to find a tire shop that will install a tire that is not IAW with the manufacturers written published instructions. In today's litigious society you are just SOL. Maybe buy the tires and find a small shop that will mount them for you who does not care. Get on the phone and start calling tire shops.

This is the short answer. Sorry....
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryceds
Evening folks. I bought some Ridge Grappler 37x12.5x20 on Black Friday from discount tire. They finally came in, went down to the shop to get them installed and they wouldn’t install on my factory 20 inch rims.

Have you guys seen/experienced this before? They said the min from Nitto allows for install on an 8 inch rim. I guess the factory lariat ultimate 20 is only 7.5 wide?? Help...
Exactly.
The OEM wheel is 8 inches wide and a 12.5 wide tire advises an 8.5 inch wide wheel..... Now many on here have mounted a 12.5 on the factory 8 inch wheel but you're going to find that big chain places don't want to take the chance and go against manufacture recommendations.
Find a small local shop and I bet they help you out.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 08:00 PM
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There is a reason they specify an 8.5" rim for tires that wide. The best and right answer is to get wider rims to fit your wider tires.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 08:07 PM
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Factory wheels are 8" wide. Nitto specs for that tire are 8.5" - 11". Buy the tires and have them mounted elsewhere or if you want the factory offset, switch to factory 18" wheel and go with that tire in a 37x11.5x18.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by seabass152
Factory wheels are 8" wide. Nitto specs for that tire are 8.5" - 11". Buy the tires and have them mounted elsewhere or if you want the factory offset, switch to factory 18" wheel and go with that tire in a 37x11.5x18.
I run the 11.5 inch wide Nitto's on my OEM wheels and went with an after market wheel for winter use with 12.5 tires
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 08:54 PM
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Discount is a huge corporation and they won't budge on not following a manufacturer's written policy. Take them to a locally owned tire shop to have them mounted on your OEM wheels.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 08:58 PM
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This topic has run round and round. There are many people running 8.5 spec tires on 8 wide wheels. I’m one of them.

It’s possible the tires will experience premature wear. I’ve run .5” out of spec tires for years and never had an actual issue.

I’m running 37x12.5 on factory wheels and plan to do it for the next 150,000 miles.

As others have said - go local and you should be fine. Big box these days won’t even mount tires that are not spec for the truck, let alone for the wheel if they can figure that one

 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 09:26 PM
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Exchange the tires for the 35" Trail Grapplers. The more aggressive tread will help fill the wheel well gap. These won't rub like the 37's.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2018 | 09:32 PM
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I had the same problem with Discount Tire. I ended up buying my tires through Ford since they price match. Ford installed them no problem.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 08:53 AM
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This topic has run round and round. There are many people running 8.5 spec tires on 8 wide wheels. I’m one of them.

It’s possible the tires will experience premature wear. I’ve run .5” out of spec tires for years and never had an actual issue.

I’m running 37x12.5 on factory wheels and plan to do it for the next 150,000 miles.

As others have said - go local and you should be fine. Big box these days won’t even mount tires that are not spec for the truck, let alone for the wheel if they can figure that one


Well it is not quite that simple. The carcass of the tire is designed to displace in a certain fashion when mounted to the rim. If it is curved too far it will flex in a manner not designed or tested for durability at different temperatures and air pressures (qualified). In short you run the risk of a carcass failure. Your throat your razor as they say.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 08:57 AM
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Thanks guys. I was hoping not to have to buy wheels but I guess I am too far into it.

Can anyone tell me which wheel this is?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 02:30 PM
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Method. Looks like an NV.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 04:53 PM
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https://www.blackrhinowheels.com/

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Old Dec 11, 2018 | 04:57 PM
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Just take them to a local tire shop, they'll throw them on without a word. The difference between 8" and 8.5" is not going to make any measurable difference. Discount Tire wouldnt mount my General Grabbers for the exact same reason, I went across the street to Jose's Tire Especiale and he threw them on for $40 and I was on my way in 30 minutes.

It's a half an inch, don't sweat it.
 
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