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Old 12-04-2018, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 00t444e
So you have a diesel then I assume? That's changes things, diesels have a lower rpm operating range so they need higher (numerically lower) gears than a gas engine. I would do the power upgrades first then decide if you need to regear or not. I wouldn't run any lower than a 4.30.
Yes, diesel. My "common sense" thought process was a new ratio would be better for acceleration and overall MPG gain. However, I could be wrong. I know if I delete and tune, I will have plenty of power. Just wasn't sure if the power would affect what gear ratio I should change to.
 
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I was just going over details with my dealer. They said that the gear swap will void my powertrain warranty. Does this sound right? I cant see how it would being that I am switching to gears which are a factory option.
 
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I’m sure the tranny is tuned for each gear setup from the factory so if you change that, I can see where it screws your warranty.

When I had mine done I was sure to tell the shop to keep everything as factory looking as possible, for that very reason. I mean, drivetrain parts fail, but a well built rear end should last a long, long time. And how are they ever going to know you changed ratios without pulling the diff cover and really doing their homework?
 
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Old 12-11-2018, 05:13 PM
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The problem is that the Ford dealer would be doing the work so I'm sure that they would put it in the computer system for every other dealer to see. If that's the case, I'll keep searching for a good 4x4 shop that can do the work.
 
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Old 12-11-2018, 05:15 PM
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Yeah don’t have the dealer do it. A specialized shop would probably do a more refined job anyway.
 
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Old 12-11-2018, 05:21 PM
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That's what I was thinking. I priced it out with the dealer because it seems that they are the only ones that can get 4.30 gears for the Dana M275. The only 4x4 specialist in the area went out of business. I'll keep searching for a garage and keep you guys posted
 
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Old 12-11-2018, 05:34 PM
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Don't waste your money. Not even remotely worth it for 35" tires
 
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I'm not going with 35s. I have 31s on it now. If I have to get bigger tires I'd go with 33s at the most.
 
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I'm not going with 35s. I have 31s on it now. If I have to get bigger tires I'd go with 33s at the most.
31s? I didn't know they still came with tires that small, you definitely don't need a gear swap for those unless you just want more torque, do you have a diesel or gas engine?
 
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Old 12-11-2018, 06:16 PM
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Yeah they are the standard size. They dont look the best but I tow a decent amount and I am happy with them.
it's a gas. If it were a diesel I wouldn't worry about gears
 
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Old 12-21-2018, 10:08 AM
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I’ve contacted many places including ford dealers about putting 4.30 gears in my 2018 f350 6.2. I can’t even get a quote from anyone. Everyone looks at me like I’m crazy. But that bumps the towing capacity up from 12,200 to 15,500 for my truck. At least in paper. That puts this truck in the sweet spot for most 5th wheel campers gvwr ratings.
 
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Originally Posted by ArcticCircle
I’m sure the tranny is tuned for each gear setup from the factory so if you change that, I can see where it screws your warranty.

When I had mine done I was sure to tell the shop to keep everything as factory looking as possible, for that very reason. I mean, drivetrain parts fail, but a well built rear end should last a long, long time. And how are they ever going to know you changed ratios without pulling the diff cover and really doing their homework?
did your shop do anything to your computer so that your speedometer/ odometer are accurate?
 
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Old 12-21-2018, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by motoxxxloak
Yes, diesel. My "common sense" thought process was a new ratio would be better for acceleration and overall MPG gain. However, I could be wrong. I know if I delete and tune, I will have plenty of power. Just wasn't sure if the power would affect what gear ratio I should change to.
You have 935lbs of torque, I don't think I'd waste money on gears. Do your delete and tune and see if you still think you need more get up and go. What's your plan for 2 year smog schedule, making it easy to put back to stock and reflash every 24 months?
 
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Old 12-21-2018, 01:45 PM
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I wouldn’t bother swapping 3.73 to 4.10. It’s not enough of a change to be worthwhile. Also, I don’t know what range your carrier goes to. At some point you’ll have to move to another carrier.
 
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Old 12-21-2018, 04:28 PM
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did your shop do anything to your computer so that your speedometer/ odometer are accurate?
This..... if you regear you REALLY need to tune the truck for the gear swap. I think thats where dealerships will get you. If you are using factory abailable ratios on a truck with oem available wheels and tires, i dont see how they could void your warranty so long as you used the oem ratio and had the oem tune for that ratio. You could always contact ford directly and try and find out. Dealerships like changing oil and selling tires. Rear gear ratio swaps not so much. And those of you that are 4x4 dont forget you have to do the front too.
 


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