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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 12:20 PM
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Its not aligment

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thats what they did on mine. Slapped a stabilizer on it and said it was good.
In most cases, eliminating tires, worn parts, etc, it is negative caster causing the problem, through all the parts and money ya want at it, it will resurface again until that axle is rotated in the correct axxis, yes they do come from the fact that way, where close enough works and a cpl thousand are built everyday
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by wicked 2018
How much is more - I see people all over the place with numbers from 3*-5*+
I am currently at ~3.5* with a 2.5" level with adjustable RA and Trackbar on 37's. I do not experience anything weird going over bumps so far.

Key word on your truck, adjustable radius arms, they are the fix, Put a leveling kit and 35s on my jeep and it was a handful to keep going straight, downright scary, lift kit said no other mods necessary, b s , i measured pinion angle and was way off 4+ caster, i got some adjustable locating arm brackets and got it right at 4+. 80mph and you can take hands of steering wheel, if you choose. lol. any easy fix if i get this wobble, ill skip the dealership for a correct fix, but i suppose the adj rad arms arent cheap?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 01:03 PM
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I am not an engineer, or even more mechanically inclined than the level of a mediocre backyard mechanic, so here’s my input.

If increasing the caster settings fixes the geometric alignment, why hasn’t Ford tested this and incorporated the new settings in their builds? It sounds like a fairly easy fix, with no real downside. It’s cheaper than throwing parts at it, would lessen the risk for lawsuits, and would create goodwill with the owners.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 01:28 PM
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I hope my wife isn't driving when it happens on mine. So far so good, no wobble, but I don't want to be the first one to die from it. Too bad it has to come to that before they'll react and just fix it in a recall.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 01:35 PM
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Me not engineer either, lol hell can barely spell it, I don’t know the answer, Jeep wranglers are the same way, some shake some don’t, some are so close to neg caster that adding a 100 lb winch to the front sets up the wobble. It’s seems to be the solid axle vehicles and not much of a caster degree window, not sure if this part of the assembly line is man or machine. Steering stabilizers have a function, bump steer mostly and off roading but i would look for the cause of the wobbling first,
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 01:40 PM
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Well it put a little fear in me after that ride. Hoping to get in to the dealer tomorrow. Dealer down the road has a 2018 Platty equipped just like mine... may have to go talk. Sounds like it's hit or miss if you get the wobble or not...
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 01:55 PM
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Adjustable control arms

It is my belief that there is no way the dealer can adjust the caster, hence the steering stabilizer miracle, and alignment b s , the correct fix is adjustable radius arms, There is limited if any possible adjustments on stock radious arms. For some reason there is enough factory tolerances during build that it’s close enough.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 02:02 PM
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It’s def a nail biter, I remember the death wobble on my 82 Suzuki gs 1100E at 120 mph, either ya had the ***** to throttle through it or back off and hope it didn’t spit ya off. Either way time to check your shorts, ��
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bombero
I am not an engineer, or even more mechanically inclined than the level of a mediocre backyard mechanic, so here’s my input.

If increasing the caster settings fixes the geometric alignment, why hasn’t Ford tested this and incorporated the new settings in their builds? It sounds like a fairly easy fix, with no real downside. It’s cheaper than throwing parts at it, would lessen the risk for lawsuits, and would create goodwill with the owners.
since theres really no adjustment to ford axles they would have to either put caster bushings in every truck or make a new welding jig or make adj radius arms. some form of adjustment is the best way imo. but you have to becareful with rolling the axle back as you dont want the pinion pointing down to much.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by powersrp
It’s def a nail biter, I remember the death wobble on my 82 Suzuki gs 1100E at 120 mph, either ya had the ***** to throttle through it or back off and hope it didn’t spit ya off. Either way time to check your shorts, ��

thats a tank slapper. death wobble is for 4 wheeled vehicles.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 03:16 PM
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Tank slapper

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thats a tank slapper. death wobble is for 4 wheeled vehicles.
See what age does to ya, agreed tank slapper, lol. All because of sum sticky Dunlop tires. Be it 2 wheels or four, it doesn’t take much to upset all that engineering
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 03:19 PM
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Pinion angle

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since theres really no adjustment to ford axles they would have to either put caster bushings in every truck or make a new welding jig or make adj radius arms. some form of adjustment is the best way imo. but you have to becareful with rolling the axle back as you dont want the pinion pointing down to much.
exactly, it also messes with drive shaft length, it’s a fine line of harmonics they engineer it to
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 03:24 PM
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See what age does to ya, agreed tank slapper, lol. All because of sum sticky Dunlop tires. Be it 2 wheels or four, it doesn’t take much to upset all that engineering

i used to get tank slappers tell i replaced my steering head bearings.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 03:32 PM
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The answer and the cure is on you tube, search death wobble power stoke superduty, guy has a black polo shirt and he is bald.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2018 | 03:46 PM
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Here’s another info video on you tube, search. , bd ford cam caster animated install
 
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