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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 11:22 AM
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Hmmmmm......

Just an observation. Difference between a new SD DIesel and new SD Gas is $6-$10k all else equal and depending who you talk to. So, in the always friendly diesel vs gas war one of the positives to owning the diesel is more resale....🤔. Well I know from experience that resale is NOT usually $6-$10k more between the trucks. As in,” I paid 8grand more for the diesel and when I sold it, I got $5 grand more than I would have were it gas....”. Uhhhhh.... you now have $11 grand more in your diesel, don’t you?😳
Not hating, just observing- if you need/want diesel go get it- nothing tows better! But Brothers ain’t nothing cheaper about it
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 01:13 PM
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Correction

sorry: short circuit between mind and finger; 8k new, 5k more trade/sell leaves one still $3 grand in the hole with the new diesel.... shoulda proofed my post better lol...😖
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 06:36 PM
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It's $9,120.00 for the diesel.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 10:25 AM
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I quit arguing with those that have to justify the diesel a long time ago. Of course a diesel will have higher resale...you paid more for it. Duh! My pocket book is more important that my ego is these days so they can believe whatever they want to. Last truck was 17 years old so if you keep them, resale means little.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 10:54 AM
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Putting the upfront and resale issues aside, the way I look at it is this - what are the chances that I can put 250K miles on it without a major repair bill? Modern gas engines have much better machining tolerances, lubrication, cleaner ignition and more power than previous generations and should go the distance with just routine maintenance. Diesel engines themselves are certainly durable but the real problem is the complex emission systems. I just don't have confidence that I could get 250K miles without an expensive fuel/emission related failure.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by T diesel
It's $9,120.00 for the diesel.
And another $1K to go to a 350 from a 250 to get your payload back . . . . .
 
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 08:27 PM
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Eh dont worry about it. Just delete it. For another 1500-3000 dollars. Modern day hot rods is all. They'll get ya coming and going. I'd have one but I like simplistic and no fuss. I fill my 48 gallon tank and carry on and 30 dollar oil change. 40 if dealer does it and tops everything off. Rock what you like but the resale thing is fooling no one but themselves.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 09:03 PM
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It's that time of year again to start reading about gelling diesel fuel.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ncl
Rock what you like but the resale thing is fooling no one but themselves.
I totally agree. There are two 2016 F250's on the local Ford dealer's lot. Virtually identical in model, equipment, and mileage. One diesel and one gas. Only $4k difference in price. So, someone ate $4K of their $8K diesel "investment" in only 2 years and 25K miles. . . . .
 
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 09:18 PM
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No doubt. Just put another nine grand with holding on your W2 to know what it's like buying a diesel.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 09:22 PM
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If I towed a lot like most who need a diesel for it makes total sense to own one. I'll be darned to own one just for kicks or status symbol.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2018 | 06:34 AM
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If I towed or hauled heavy for every mile of truck use, then I'd have probably bought a diesel. Or at least considered it more. But I would have been *very* nervous about the durability of the truck due to all the emissions crap they (all brands) are forced to put on the trucks these days. But yeah, a $9K upcharge AND the opportunity for a whole lot of fuel or emissions related gremlins thrown in, keeps me from considering them much.

I'm sure I'm in the minority though. They seem to sell the diesels like hotcakes, which is fine. Went through the local dealer a few months ago when I started to consider upgrading to a dually. Wanted a Unicorn truck though, gas engine, crew cab, dually, 4.30 gears, XLT package. Not one single gas engine superduty on the lot. All were diesels, and only one dually, which was a platinum 6.7L. Yeah... NO. $80K for a truck is just stone-cold-stupid.

New truck "feels" all gone now.

Hopped back in my paid for '12 (paid $34K brand new), patted the dashboard while muttering "Good truck, good truck", and drove away.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2018 | 05:19 PM
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A few years ago I was all for getting a diesel. My profession has me driving them daily and I love the power. I researched for about a year and checked out all the forums I could. It seemed that it was hit or miss on getting the diesel option without any issues. Didn't really need one but I just wanted one. Checked on all the weights of trailers/campers, etc that I wanted to pull and the 6.2L was the best option for me. I am happy with my decision and saving about 9k. Ordered exactly what I wanted and got all the options I wanted at a price I felt was worth it. Now that it has been 13 months since purchase/delivery, I am still very happy with my decision and no regrets.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2018 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JTPioneer
Diesel engines themselves are certainly durable but the real problem is the complex emission systems. I just don't have confidence that I could get 250K miles without an expensive fuel/emission related failure.
+ 1. Getting to 250k without having some expensive emissions repairs is not going to happen. I'll take my slow an steady gasser that's paid off.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2018 | 08:02 PM
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My wallet and actual needs decided that gasser was the way to go for me. Resale won't be an issue as I will be driving it until it dies. And when it dies....will just put a new gas engine in it. Still will come out ahead in the long run. Cheaper fuel, cheaper routine maintenance, and no fears of driving once the warranty expires.
 
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