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Old Nov 8, 2018 | 12:03 PM
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BBF Single Short F150

I have a sold 385 series 460 torn down for a build. Looking at aluminum headed (SCJ or TFS) 460, probably a holley sniper EFI. Still sorting out this engine and trans, then I will source a nice clean truck to put it in.

I want to cram this into a Single Cab Short Bed 92 to 95 ford pickup. Would a flareside be any good for a street truck?

This will be designed for a fun Friday beatdown, or maybe a Sunday local show now and then. Track maybe twice a year.

Really like the idea of a Lokar style shifter, something I can hammer, but transmission selection is really a gray area for me. I have a 4x4 C6 I can swap off on a 2wd if im lucky, but O.D. would be nice for those sunday drives.
I am not against a standard shift, but how much can you shorten the throw when its all the way down on the floor unlike a car?

I am all ears for transmission / shifter selection assistance. Show me what you have.

I am not entirely new to building trucks, just not a street truck.

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Old Nov 8, 2018 | 05:27 PM
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A 429 or 460 with aluminum heads will probably be a strain on a stock c6 and the c6 doesnt have overdrive. Unless your gonna run highway gears in an 8.8 rear its gonna drink gas like crazy. You could look into a gear vendors od unit or get a built AOD trans and a matched converter to your engine setup.. Depending how crazy you want to go with your engine a manual trans you'll need to consider torque numbers maybe a modified tremec tho 600 or a t56 magnum. But any of those manual trannys your looking at a good bit of modification for crossmember and clutch linkages or slave cyl. I think a built auto would be easier and a manual sucks in traffic. The lokar looks like a nice shifter but not sure if it's really meant to bang gears with might want to look into a b and m or a tci style ratchet shifter.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2018 | 06:39 PM
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I can fabricate a cross member no problem.

AOD huh... I'll look into that.

Build should level out around 500hp. As for ratcet shifters... I think b&m is still going to have me hunched over right?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2018 | 08:21 PM
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You would need an E4od trans for a 385 series bellhousing, the aod is SBf pattern only and would die horribly anyway.
A C6 with a fresh build and valvebody kit would be fine to 500 or so ponies. And if you really are starting from scratch, a stock height 150 4x4 awd Big block truck would be neat. Some cheap rear traction bars to keep rear hop down and being able to pull hard off the line without full slicks would surprise people.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2018 | 08:30 PM
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You would need an E4od trans for a 385 series bellhousing, the aod is SBf pattern only and would die horribly anyway.
A C6 with a fresh build and valvebody kit would be fine to 500 or so ponies. And if you really are starting from scratch, a stock height 150 4x4 awd Big block truck would be neat. Some cheap rear traction bars to keep rear hop down and being able to pull hard off the line without full slicks would surprise people.
Not too sure about the 4wd part but I know I like 1st gen lightenings. Would like to square up with one and see how I do on a grudge night.

I wouldn't mind a little tubbing in back and a nice flat fiberglass cover. or Pleather lol.

E40D will likely be my choice then.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2018 | 08:30 PM
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AOD was never available with a 385 bellhousing. Also a C6 is way stronger. Probably the strongest transmission you can find behind a 460.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 07:20 AM
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You can get modified AODs that will bolt to a 385 series engine and can easily handle up to 1000+hp . E4OD would have to be built as well. The reason I mentioned an AOD is its non electronic and simple best bet as well could be a c6 with a gear vendors od. A ratchet type shifter could be mounted up to a pedestal to bring it into easy reach.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GASPIG88
I have a sold 385 series 460 torn down for a build. Looking at aluminum headed (SCJ or TFS) 460, probably a holley sniper EFI. Still sorting out this engine and trans, then I will source a nice clean truck to put it in.I want to cram this into a Single Cab Short Bed 92 to 95 ford pickup. Would a flareside be any good for a street truck?
That should be an absolute monster if done properly, I had a '79 F-350 Super Cab, C6 with a very built 429 (900 cfm Holley, BBC roller rockers, big cam long tube headers, etc,) & in traffic, you could race Cameros and win. It was a bit over cammed, and lost a lot of low end due to that, it was great from a roll, but off the line it suffered. Very easy to over to over cam that engine, especially with big port heads. When I finally killed the 429, I built a 460 .060 over bore, and went overboard the other way (RV cam, small port heads, 650 Holley, ) and the result was a stump puller, it was hard not to spin the wheels taking off, but it was all in by 5k RPMS, really a bit lower for torque peak. You could still drag race and win, pulling a trailer, fuel consumption with either setup was about 8 MPG, You should do much better with EFI,
 
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At this point he would be looking into a mass air efi setup if he wanted to run those heads and a cam and also to run an e40d. Or go with a baumannator TCU. I'd rather avoid that rats nest of wiring and sensors and plumbing.I am going to be doing an edelbrock pro flo 4 efi kit on a 408ci windsor with afr heads I got ahold of and built AOD. Should be around 450 to 500hp something quick but not horrible on gas.
 
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