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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 09:30 PM
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Intermittent Rough Idle

Wifes truck is having some issues. Its a L99, cclb, auto with 207k mi. All stock/factory as far as we know.

Its got what I would call a rough idle or maybe a "miss". It only acts up at idle, not on cold start, (though it doesnt matter if the truck is warm or cold),no smoke, no hard start, no lack of power, and no cel. She first noticed it when slowing down to a stop, it would run rough (shake, miss, etc..) but clear up as soon as you take off. Its always been intermittent. I drove it for the first time today while it was having issues, just drove a few miles and every time I came to a stop it would idle rough, take off and its fine. However when I parked it if I let it idle in gear then shifted to N it would idle rough, then back in gear (D or R) it would clear up, then P rough idle etc...

Seems strange to me, only thing that has been done was a new fuel filter that didnt change anything. I do have AE but with no codes I dont know what to look for as I've only used it a few times and its been quite a while. Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 09:56 PM
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Do you have a fuel pressure gauge? If yes, what pressures are you seeing?
 
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I usually start here https://oregonfuelinjection.com/cont...diagnostic.pdf
but the intermittent part to me says something wire related like a IPR pig tail.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 11:44 PM
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Do you have a fuel pressure gauge? If yes, what pressures are you seeing?
No fuel pressure gauge. Others have suggested this as well but I struggle to see where it’s a fuel pressure/lack of fuel issue, again this is just a rough idle. Upon acceleration, or any use of the skinny pedal for that matter, it seems to clear right up. No vibes, no hesitation, no lack of power etc. Wouldnt a fuel pressure issue become worse as more fuel was demanded?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
I usually start here https://oregonfuelinjection.com/cont...diagnostic.pdf
but the intermittent part to me says something wire related like a IPR pig tail.
Thanks for the link, good info there. I’m leaning toward something of that nature as well. When I get a chance to dig into it I’m gona check IPR, and UVCH to start.

Correct me if I’m wrong but if I unplug the IPR the truck will still run? And if it smooths out, it’s **** up?
 
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 12:07 AM
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Pretty sure you are thinking of the ICP, I don’t think it will run with the IPR unplugged.

I recently had to pull my harness ( easy to do ) and go over ever inch of every wire. Harness week-spots are where wires branch off the trunk and the plastic armor doesn’t protect it and near the connectors.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
Pretty sure you are thinking of the ICP, I don’t think it will run with the IPR unplugged.

I recently had to pull my harness ( easy to do ) and go over ever inch of every wire. Harness week-spots are where wires branch off the trunk and the plastic armor doesn’t protect it and near the connectors.
Yes sorry, I was thinking of the ICP.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2018 | 05:40 PM
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Ok so I finally got around to the looking at the truck. First thing I did was unplug the ICP to find it soaked in oil, knowing that’s not good I plugged it back in and fired the truck up. Thankfully it was immediately running rough so I unplugged the ICP and sure enough it cleared right up. And for the hell of it repeated the process, shut truck off (to get rid of ses light that came on when ICP was unplugged), plug in ICP, turn truck on, horrible idle, unplug ICP, idle clears up.

This tells me the ICP is bad, and is the culprit to my rough idle......am I wrong to assume that??
 
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You are not wrong... Clay at RiffRaff or any other OEM supplier will help you out. Do not get any aftermarket sensors for the 7.3!
 
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Yep, you nailed it. Congrats on a fast easy fix. I don't think I can say it's cheap, I think that's an expensive sensor.
 
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You are not wrong... Clay at RiffRaff or any other OEM supplier will help you out. Do not get any aftermarket sensors for the 7.3!
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Yep, you nailed it. Congrats on a fast easy fix. I don't think I can say it's cheap, I think that's an expensive sensor.
For sure Motorcraft/OEM only. Gona try the stealership tomorrow to see if the price is comparable and if not I’ll be going through Clay, like to have one in hand tomorrow tho.
 
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