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Old Oct 14, 2018 | 12:27 PM
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84 inline6 feedback conversion questions

So I recently bought an 84 F150 with the in-line 6 and a 4 speed granny transmission and it’s 4x4. The previous owner had the feedback carb completely disconnected and the connectors wiring that plugs into the distributor is altered. It was running super rich and smoking a lot of gas out of the exhaust. I got a non feed back carb on eBay and fixed all the vacuum leaks and it runs really smooth and idles great now with 20in of vacuum. My question is that I read in a lot of other threads that I need a duraspark 2 distributor and module which I have purchased just not installed and I’m 17 and still learning a lot about engine and I was wondering what difference it would make since it’s idles and runs good. Thanks- Colby
 
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If you are still running the feed back dist. (TFI unit) it has no vacuum or mechanical advance.
Advance is controlled by the computer and because you are running a non-feed back carb the computer goes into "limp mode" and locks the timing.
Because it has no advance the motor will lack power and not run its best.
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
If you are still running the feed back dist. (TFI unit) it has no vacuum or mechanical advance.
Advance is controlled by the computer and because you are running a non-feed back carb the computer goes into "limp mode" and locks the timing.
Because it has no advance the motor will lack power and not run its best.
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thanks, do you know how much it will effect the gas mileage with a properly tuned non feed back carb and the tfi distributor?
 
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Originally Posted by 1984oldn’slow

thanks, do you know how much it will effect the gas mileage with a properly tuned non feed back carb and the tfi distributor?
Dude... have you actually *driven* the thing on the road in its current condition?
 
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Dude... have you actually *driven* the thing on the road in its current condition?
I bet he has as he chose "1984oldnslow" as his forum name......
 
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
I bet he has as he chose "1984oldnslow" as his forum name......
Yeah, that occurred to me afterwards, my comment was my original, knee-jerk reaction without knowing much about the situation.

If the timing isn't advancing, performance (acceleration) is gonna be crap. You could maybe get it up to highway speeds but you should be able to tell that something's wrong. People sometimes force that condition for a short time to pass an emissions test.

True limp-home mode won't let you get over ~30 MPH.

In any event, a non-computer-controlled ignition system is necessary to restore any sort of acceptable performance.
 
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Sounds like he has a handle on the carb. When I started at Fedex we had thousands of new '84-85 E250s with the 300. No one could figure out how to keep the exhaust manifolds tight. Ditto my '85. After any long trip, I would be out trying to tighten that thing up.

EFI exhaust manifolds seem to be the answer. OP can find more info on that in the Six forum.

Good luck!
 
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
Dude... have you actually *driven* the thing on the road in its current condition?
yeah I have, I haven’t done anything to figure out the gas mileage
 
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
I bet he has as he chose "1984oldnslow" as his forum name......
yeah, she definitely isn’t a race truck lol but it’s just a work truck
 
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
Yeah, that occurred to me afterwards, my comment was my original, knee-jerk reaction without knowing much about the situation.

If the timing isn't advancing, performance (acceleration) is gonna be crap. You could maybe get it up to highway speeds but you should be able to tell that something's wrong. People sometimes force that condition for a short time to pass an emissions test.

True limp-home mode won't let you get over ~30 MPH.

In any event, a non-computer-controlled ignition system is necessary to restore any sort of acceptable performance.
well I’ve got it up to 70 mph
 
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
Sounds like he has a handle on the carb. When I started at Fedex we had thousands of new '84-85 E250s with the 300. No one could figure out how to keep the exhaust manifolds tight. Ditto my '85. After any long trip, I would be out trying to tighten that thing up.

EFI exhaust manifolds seem to be the answer. OP can find more info on that in the Six forum.

Good luck!
I’ve got it up to 70mph. I just figured that the slow acceleration was the 4 speed granny transmission. It just seems to be geared reallly low. But I’m not looking for acceleration I just want tourqe and decent mpg
 
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yeah, she definitely isn’t a race truck lol but it’s just a work truck
I’m just glad someone got a kick outta my username 😂lol
 
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Fuel mileage and throttle response will be noticeably improved with the proper distributor. I have never owned a six, so I can't tell you actual numbers.
 
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well I’ve got it up to 70 mph
Believe it or not, my dad disconnected all the emissions and the truck ran ok for a long time. im working on either restoring it to stock feedback/emissions system or duraspark/ restomod. not sure which is better. Thats for another thread.lol
 

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