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Old Oct 12, 2018 | 09:04 PM
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Good on ya for keeping on looking. Glad you found it.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 07:48 PM
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I've read the 96 model was a transition year. It has the OBD2 connector under the dash but it isn't hooked up to the computer. You can't pull any codes from it. The sticker under the hood says it is OBD1. My problem is I can't find the OBD1 connector. I've looked in all the usual places, near the battery, on the fenders, on the firewall, and on top of the engine. Does anyone know where the OBD1 connector is located on a 96 E350?
Wow. TIL. I was under the impression *everything* had to be OBD-II by MY 1996.

Any modern-day automotive scanner should be able to pull codes, pull live data and run diagnostic tests on that van. All that is needed is an EEC-IV-compatible adapter. If you're looking to acquire one yourself, I own the following package:
  • Snap-On MT2500 with:
    • FRD-1 adapter (for EEC-IV)
    • Primary Cartridge covering your model year
    • Fast Track Troubleshooting cartridge covering your model year and system
As newer scanners have rendered the MT2500 worthless in the service world they can be had off eBay for a few hundred dollars. They're inexpensive gold for those of us who love to buy and fix older cars.

You *can* get a cheap Innova scanner from AutoZone for $30, but all they do is show the code numbers. If you can muster a few hundred bucks for a proper tool, you'll be *way* happier in the long run.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 07:11 PM
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Wow. TIL. I was under the impression *everything* had to be OBD-II by MY 1996.
Same here, but I found out otherwise. 1 ton and above had another year to comply, apparently.

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Any modern-day automotive scanner should be able to pull codes,
My regular shop said no, it was a Ford proprietary interface. They were not able to read it, and they do have all the fun toys. My Ford dealer confirmed this - it's Ford proprietary.

 
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Old Nov 17, 2018 | 04:33 PM
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My regular shop said no, it was a Ford proprietary interface. They were not able to read it, and they do have all the fun toys.
Seriously? Huh. The shop that swapped out the E4OD on my E-150 has one of the newer Snap-On scanners, and it supports that EEC-IV system (FORD-1A adapter required). They pulled and printed my codes perfectly. As Snap-On is a leading brand of professional scan tools I assumed their competitors had that capability as well.

In any case, if you can muster a few hundred bucks for the MT2500 package I mentioned (*foot-stomp* with the FORD-1A adapter) you can pull them yourself. While you're at it, if you have 4-wheel ABS I would encourage you to grab a FORD-4 ABS adapter so you can pull ABS codes. More on that here.

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My Ford dealer confirmed this - it's Ford proprietary.
Everyone had their own system back then; Ford used EEC-IV on most models from the 80s to the mid-90s. Dealers dropped support for it years ago.

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Old Nov 17, 2018 | 08:16 PM
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Vehicles under 8500 GWVR were required to be OBDII. Over 8500# were not required to be OBDII-compliant unless they were originally sold into one of the named "green states". That exception continued for many years (more than 10).
 
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Old Nov 18, 2018 | 04:43 PM
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I have a Snap-On MT2500 with all of the OBD1 connectors, including the Ford. I used it for my '95 Clubwagon, which I sold about a year ago. I should probably put it up on ebay as I no longer need it.

If you want it I will be glad to sell it to you. It worked great on my Van.
 
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