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Old 09-04-2018, 05:41 AM
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Great diesel article here

Is the 2018 Ford F-150 Turbo-Diesel Cost-Effective? - PickupTrucks.com News

I think the article is well written and fair minded in his assessment.
 
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I love diesels,but they priced it out of the market, Up here they are $7000 dollars more then the base motor on a Lariat. The other factor is that Ford already has a diesel like motor with the 3.5 EB.
 
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Old 09-04-2018, 06:20 PM
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The only reason I would consider a 1/2 ton diesel is the mpg. None of the ratings are any better, the fuel - if you run regular - is always more and the get up and go just isn't there. I thought about getting one but when both Dodge and Ford didn't up the tow/capacity ratings it just didn't seem worth it. Jump to the 3/4 - 1 ton and be happy if you want a diesel.
 
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In my mind, Ford killed their own diesel with the torque output of the Ecoboost motors. Why deal with DEF, low horsepower, a premium cost adder, regen cycles, and slow performance when you can avoid most of that with the Ecoboost motors?

I was interested in a 1/2-ton diesel until I realized that I get it all with an EB. I wanted the big torque....I got it without the hassle the diesel carries.

The article seemed pretty balanced.

I wouldn't disparage anyone for wanting one, it’s just not for me when I considered all my options.
 
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I didn't even consider it when placing the order for my truck. This time I'm going with a 2.7, and I'm confident it will meet all of my needs.
 
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After owning a new diesel almost every year since 1999, I'm out. Sold my 2017 and went back to an F150. Even if I towed heavy tomorrow, I'm not sure I'd pony up the cash for a diesel. The 6.7L is about bulletproof, but the cost even for my high mileage is not worth the cost anymore and the potential for repairs and additional upkeep and higher fuel costs. Don't get me wrong, I love diesels. It's all I ever knew. My only regret, maybe, with this 2018 F150 is I didn't get the EcoBoost again. The 5.0L engine alone just sounds like it rattles, pings, grinds,,etc., and it just isn't as smooth.
 
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If I drove a lot more, I might have considered it only if they would have the 36-gallon tank. As others pointed out, the 2.7 is a better option and I can get the 36-gallon tank.
 
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It's pretty clear to me that Ford is less concerned about diesel sales figures than just being able to say that they offer one in the half ton. I wish Ford luck on this one and I hope it does what they want it to.
 
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The 3.5 is a very torquey motor, if a little thirsty when towing. I am a diesel fan but the 3.5 is very versitle, good mpg as a driver (just stay off the boost!) and a torque monster when towing. We are in the middle of a 5000 km trip while towing a 6500 TT and have gone over some smaller mountains. Up the grade you just descide how fast you want to go! Down the trans (2018) grade shifts like crazy to limit speed but the engine is only 3.5 so not terribly effective. Power is never an issue!

IMO the Diesel is like the HD, Ford wants the bragging rights but doesn't really want to sell too many!
 
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The 3.5 is a very torquey motor, if a little thirsty when towing. I am a diesel fan but the 3.5 is very versitle, good mpg as a driver (just stay off the boost!) and a torque monster when towing. We are in the middle of a 5000 km trip while towing a 6500 TT and have gone over some smaller mountains. Up the grade you just descide how fast you want to go! Down the trans (2018) grade shifts like crazy to limit speed but the engine is only 3.5 so not terribly effective. Power is never an issue!

IMO the Diesel is like the HD, Ford wants the bragging rights but doesn't really want to sell too many!
This is a very accurate observation. I feel the same way about my 3.5L. It feels just like my diesels and performs above my expectations.

I still have 2 diesels in my fleet. I still love my diesels and I'll probably continue to keep a couple long term (I've had at least one consistently since 1992). However, I don't really see the need of one in the 1/2 ton platform. The little Ecoboost has proven to be capable of handling anything that the 1/2 ton platform can realistically tackle. If modern diesels didn't come with all the additional complexity, it may be a different situation. But, I simply can't justify that complexity/cost when these Ecoboost engines are available.
 
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