Ford needs to add a regen button
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Ford needs to add a regen button
Today I drove about 30 miles south to pick up a tractor I was having some work done on by the dealer. After loading up and chaining down, I pulled out with my 15k lbs in tow. Happened to check my DPF screen and it is at 95% full. Drove back the 30 miles and no regen occurred, still sitting on 95%. This would have been the perfect time to regen, out on the highway with a heavy load and plenty of miles to get it done. Now what will happen is while I'm putting around town for Labor Day weekend, it will start a regen that won't be able to finish, probably multiple times. It will force me to take the truck out on the highway again for no reason.
Now, if there was a button the dash, I could have started a regen on my return trip. Ford could even make it to where a manually-commanded "in motion" regen could not be started unless your DPF was at least 80% full to prevent people from regenerating the DPF unnecessarily. But in this case, the driver knows best.
Anyone else agree?
Now, if there was a button the dash, I could have started a regen on my return trip. Ford could even make it to where a manually-commanded "in motion" regen could not be started unless your DPF was at least 80% full to prevent people from regenerating the DPF unnecessarily. But in this case, the driver knows best.
Anyone else agree?
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Yeah, I saw that on the FORScan thread. But what I want is "in motion" ability. On another note, I think OCR is a $200 option on XL or XLT trucks...this FORScan mod negates the need to spend any money, and allows it on higher trims. Nice! Same as enabling HDC on non FX4 trucks with the purchase of a cheap switch.
Reminds me how Land Rover used to charge $500 or so for front heated seats on their Discovery II models. But it turns out every Discovery had heated seats, just not the switches on the console. You could simply buy a new switch panel with the switches and "activate" your heated seats for far less than $500.
Reminds me how Land Rover used to charge $500 or so for front heated seats on their Discovery II models. But it turns out every Discovery had heated seats, just not the switches on the console. You could simply buy a new switch panel with the switches and "activate" your heated seats for far less than $500.
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I have a 12 mile drive to work where I rarely exceed 45mph. All stop and go traffic. Yesterday it did a full regen from 99% to 5% during my normal drive. This is actually why Ford doesn't show, by default, the DPF status because it's supposed to be irrelevant. 5 years of having a Ram with SCR, and not a single time did I ever have to worry about regen, because it'd just do it when needed. It seems to also be the case with the SD. I've been through 6 or 7 regens already. I've stopped them just minutes after they've started, and even tried to help them finish. I found that it was just best to ignore it. We're not supposed to have to pay so much attention to that process. One day it was in regen, and I jumped on the highway. Going about 80mph for a little over 10 miles, and the DPF didn't move even a tiny bit until I got on another highway with a lower speed. My Ram would have finished it on the highway, but the SD seems to be different.
Would be a nice feature, but it's not supposed to be needed...
Would be a nice feature, but it's not supposed to be needed...
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I have a 12 mile drive to work where I rarely exceed 45mph. All stop and go traffic. Yesterday it did a full regen from 99% to 5% during my normal drive. This is actually why Ford doesn't show, by default, the DPF status because it's supposed to be irrelevant. 5 years of having a Ram with SCR, and not a single time did I ever have to worry about regen, because it'd just do it when needed. It seems to also be the case with the SD. I've been through 6 or 7 regens already. I've stopped them just minutes after they've started, and even tried to help them finish. I found that it was just best to ignore it. We're not supposed to have to pay so much attention to that process. One day it was in regen, and I jumped on the highway. Going about 80mph for a little over 10 miles, and the DPF didn't move even a tiny bit until I got on another highway with a lower speed. My Ram would have finished it on the highway, but the SD seems to be different.
Would be a nice feature, but it's not supposed to be needed...
Would be a nice feature, but it's not supposed to be needed...
The Super Duty takes longer to clear the DPF % Full at interstate speed for some reason (maybe airflow cooling) but come down an off ramp and slow down, you'll see the DPF % drop rather suddenly.
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I agree with you. Ford needs to add the option to start an “in motion” regen. Here lately, mine kicks in at 60-65% full, burns to 15-20%, then shuts off. Average mileage between regens is 216 at the moment.
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I agree, it would be nice to have a command DPF clean while driving button. But I do think other than special circumstances like driving on the farm, in a work environment where stationary DPF clean needs to happen, it should just do what it needs to do on its own. We can use Forscan to command a stationary, but we cant a moving to date I am aware. I have never had a drive to clean message in almost two years, covering two winters and all the cold short drives I have to do(work, hockey). I do realize it is attempting to regen and only getting down to 85% or 90% quite a bit, but it never seems to really cause an issue.
I do see when towing that the DPF% doesn't go up or very slowly most times. In fact, this is when I have seen regen's the furthest apart. Usually towing in the summer heat, just the towing seems to keep the DPF cleanest. As soon as no load or colder temps, even on the highway, it is steadily increasing. REgen's in those conditions about 500 Km apart. In winter, or summer, I will invariably see a DPF clean early in the tow, and at the end some 500 Km later. Ussually because the DPF% is high when I leave town, and it takes a long time to build up soot towing becuase of the heat in the exhaust.
I do see when towing that the DPF% doesn't go up or very slowly most times. In fact, this is when I have seen regen's the furthest apart. Usually towing in the summer heat, just the towing seems to keep the DPF cleanest. As soon as no load or colder temps, even on the highway, it is steadily increasing. REgen's in those conditions about 500 Km apart. In winter, or summer, I will invariably see a DPF clean early in the tow, and at the end some 500 Km later. Ussually because the DPF% is high when I leave town, and it takes a long time to build up soot towing becuase of the heat in the exhaust.
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I agree I constantly leave for a weekend of camping while pulling the four wheelers at 95% and get there at 95%. For a 950mile trip all up hill it makes no sense that it doesn't start the Regen, but once I head down to come home it will start. I hate this because I feel it would clean way better pulling up hill than coasting down hill. The plus is by the time I get home it's at about 5%, whereas if it cleaned on my way up I'd probably be somewhere between 15%-30%. I guess the heat from the exhaust while pulling doesn't let it build up.
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I went a little off the deep end on this subject awhile back.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ve-regens.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ve-regens.html
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I have the manual regen too. It’s worthless except in the most extreme cases.
C’mon Ford, give us the choice to do a moving regen when we know conditions will be the best!
I believe Toy Master is correct about John Q. Public.
C’mon Ford, give us the choice to do a moving regen when we know conditions will be the best!
I believe Toy Master is correct about John Q. Public.
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It is a non-event. Just think of all those diesel owners...cars, suvs, vans, trucks of all makes...who just drive carefree. They just don't know they joy of high anxiety over nothing. Don't worry. Be happy.
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