Notices
2017 - 2022 Super Duty The 2017-2022 Ford F250, F350, F450, F550 & F600 Super Duty Pickup and Chassis Cab
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Bed height frustrations

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 27, 2018 | 03:01 PM
  #1  
wntrwhte's Avatar
wntrwhte
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Bed height frustrations

I have an '18 F250 XLT Prem and I purchased this truck specifically to haul horse trailers. My bumper pull trailer is fine (obviously, though I had to get a very long drop hitch for it). But I've been off trying to find a gooseneck and...

none of them have sufficient clearance for the absurdly tall rails on this truck. They are apparently designed to a standard bed rail height of 55 1/2 and my stock XLT Prem with camper package is 59 7/8." All manufacturers have told me so far that they will need to custom make one and take 4" off the height of the gooseneck area.

I can flip the axles on the trailer or block them, which costs a grand and makes it very tall for the horses to get into. The adjustable coupler can bring the trailer up a bit, but causes it to ride nose high and overload the rear axle of the trailer.

Anyone with a 2017/2018 successfully hauling a gooseneck HORSE trailer (not a 5th wheel...not a flat deck...a horse trailer) that is unmodified and fits the truck as stock? If so, what brand is it? And is there any valid reason that Ford decided to make these so INSANELY tall?
 
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2018 | 04:41 PM
  #2  
toymaster's Avatar
toymaster
Laughing Gas
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 902
Likes: 51
From: Clark, WY
You not going to want to hear this but I had my horse trailer made for my taller trucks. I had one custom built from Hawk. They build them entirely in one work bay and will build to your dimensions for no extra cost.

I hate to say this but you could check on lowering your truck's rear-end. It will help with the overall height but the bed depth is still 21", up from 19" of previous models. Although, you can buy a 2" taller goose neck ball.
 
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2018 | 04:46 PM
  #3  
wntrwhte's Avatar
wntrwhte
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by toymaster
You not going to want to hear this but I had my horse trailer made for my taller trucks. I had one custom built from Hawk. They build them entirely in one work bay and will build to your dimensions for no extra cost.

I hate to say this but you could check on lowering your truck's rear-end. It will help with the overall height but the bed depth is still 21", up from 19" of previous models. Although, you can buy a 2" taller goose neck ball.
Realistically I would buy a flatbed before I bought a new trailer. With the prices of aluminum these days, a new gooseneck is almost out of the question. $45k or more for an EBY, Hart, etc. I don't want a steel frame, so Hawk is out. In New England, the steel frames are trashed in a matter of years from the salt.

Will look into lowering the truck (this is all it's used for, and frankly I think it is too tall) if I can't get this trailer to fit. Getting a taller ball and raising the coupler is causing the trailer to sit too nose high. Still, wtf is Ford thinking making a heavy duty truck that is too tall to haul anything?
 
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2018 | 04:50 PM
  #4  
toymaster's Avatar
toymaster
Laughing Gas
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 902
Likes: 51
From: Clark, WY
Why is a semi-truck so tall? It takes clearance for the larger axles and suspension items. Also, quite a few people raise them higher, including myself.

People have had the same grip with Ford and Dodge for decades now.
 
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2018 | 04:55 PM
  #5  
wntrwhte's Avatar
wntrwhte
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by toymaster
Why is a semi-truck so tall? It takes clearance for the larger axles and suspension items. Also, quite a few people raise them higher, including myself.

People have had the same grip with Ford and Dodge for decades now.
The bed floor height is 2" higher and the top of the bed sides is 3" higher than a Dodge 2500.

I didn't even think about it when I was buying, I stupidly assumed that nobody would make a truck that needed a custom trailer to fit it, but that 3" would have made all the difference here. The newer horse trailers already have 6" more clearance than older ones due to this issue, and it's still not enough for this truck. My 2001 Sundowner does not fit, even with the coupler extended and the axles on the trailer blocked.
 
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2018 | 05:14 PM
  #6  
Xwild's Avatar
Xwild
Elder User
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 872
Likes: 4
From: Greene, NY
My EBY works fine. Not sure if it was originally custom or not - I bought it used. And I recently hauled a Featherlight that I believe was stock, and it worked ok as well. Not AS well as the EBY... But I also didn't really bother spending the time to adjust it much - I just made sure I had plenty of clearance - Could have gotten it closer to level and still been OK I think.
 
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2018 | 06:45 PM
  #7  
Fosters's Avatar
Fosters
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,684
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix, AZ
I went through this with my 2008 F350 and when it came time to get a new truck I went 2wd (2015 cc drw) just because of that reason... then I realized that 11-16 were quite a bit lower to start with. It was awesome to be able to reach in the bed and not feel like a midget in the process. I am now going back to 4x4, and I am fully prepared for the f450 to be a beast. I am gonna put a goosebox on my 5th wheel and haul it as a gooseneck, and have had worries about the height of the truck as it will be fairly high.. My only advantage is I can jack up the height of the goosebox a few holes up on the trailer, and use a 2" raised ball to get the 5th wheel off the bed sides...

Only suggestions: the cheap one: put 2wd blocks in place of the 4x4 ones and it should drop a little. The expensive one: flat bed. I'm contemplating one of the hauler beds - i get the versatility of a flat bed (being able to load junk with a forklift from any angle) and some storage for minor rv stuff on the sides; and trailer won't hit anything...

The really expensive one is get a new trailer - but that's not really feasible for anyone.
 
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2018 | 06:54 PM
  #8  
Chaserev800kid's Avatar
Chaserev800kid
Freshman User
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 41
Likes: 1

I have no problem what so ever with clearance pulling my gooseneck all over Canada and Alaska. Stock Trailswest gooseneck and my truck is lifted front and rear 2 inches. I’d hook up to one before purchase obviously and see where she rides
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Looneybin
2017 - 2022 Super Duty
27
Dec 27, 2021 10:25 AM
STIBUILDER
2017 - 2022 Super Duty
4
Oct 14, 2018 08:36 PM
TheresaL
2017 - 2022 Super Duty
4
Nov 25, 2017 12:12 PM
SCREW
All Things Towing
1
Dec 4, 2015 05:33 AM
colbyco1
All Things Towing
41
Apr 17, 2013 12:04 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:10 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE