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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 12:28 PM
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Stumble at Idle

2005 F-250 6.0L with 67,000 miles. I have an intermittent stumble at idle that popped up a few weeks ago. It only does this at idle and it only happens maybe once a week. The RPMs used to surge a little bit at idle (would only happen once a month) until it got warmed up but now the RPMs are dropping like you can see in the video below. Where should I start? Is this classic stiction or is it a sensor (ICP)? I am looking into FICM repair because it looks weak but I think the FICM might not be related? Thank you!


 
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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 01:03 PM
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Checking for any trouble codes stored that have not popped the check engine light is where I would start.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 01:06 PM
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Thanks. I forgot to mention that there are no trouble codes.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 02:39 PM
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What is your ICP at hot idle?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 04:47 PM
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What is your ICP at hot idle?
ICP @ hot idle: 580 psi
 
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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 04:57 PM
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ICP @ hot idle: 580 psi
Ok, your IPR should be around 22% at 580psi . Could be looking at a high pressure oil leak.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jswartz84
Ok, your IPR should be around 22% at 580psi . Could be looking at a high pressure oil leak.
It is 22% at 580 psi
 
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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 05:01 PM
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That doesnt look bad, I was going off the IPR % in the video.
Have you tried unplugging the ICP sensor and reseating the connection?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 05:07 PM
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That doesnt look bad, I was going off the IPR % in the video.
Have you tried unplugging the ICP sensor and reseating the connection?
I have not tried that. Do I unplug while it is running? I think the 2005 is on the passenger side valve cover?

It acts up real infrequently. For instance, it did not do it on today’s morning commute to work and hasn’t done it all week. And then when I ran an errand for lunch is when it happened. Then no issues on the commute back home after work.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 05:13 PM
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I have not tried that. Do I unplug while it is running? I think the 2005 is on the passenger side valve cover?

It acts up real infrequently. For instance, it did not do it on today’s morning commute to work and hasn’t done it all week. And then when I ran an errand for lunch is when it happened. Then no issues on the commute back home after work.
No, unplug it while the key is off. Mine did this years ago, it started out maybe once a week, then got more frequent. I pulled over and reseatted the ICP connector and the problem went away.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 05:17 PM
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Oh and you are correct, the ICP is located on the passenger side valve cover toward the front.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 05:18 PM
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You have an injector dropping out.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 05:30 PM
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I will try unplugging the ICP sensor and re-seating it.

If that doesn’t fix it, then the next likely cause is injector?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2018 | 05:43 PM
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Watch ICP press while it is stumbling and see if the reading is changing.
Mine does the same thing. I either have a bad ICP or a bad connection/pigtail/wire that’s intermittent
 
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Does this stumble almost feel like the engines going to quit? Or are you watching the RPM gauge fluctuate a little up and down? When I had an injector going out it was like the engine was going to stop.
 
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