Help: Rollover Valve- Replace Valve or Tank?
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Help: Rollover Valve- Replace Valve or Tank?
Turns out we have rodents in our garage.
Had a fuel leak and my local Ford mech dropped the tank to find this- gaping hole in what used to be the rollover valve. Per the books, Ford refers to it as an Evaporative Emission Valve.
Thought it to be an easy replacement, but per the service manual- the "valve cannot be removed from a composite tank", and my mechanic is echoing this.
A replacement tank has been located but at $900 and twice the mileage- I'd love to be able to retain my original tank.
A few questions for those with wisdom on this:
- Can the valve be replaced without replacing the tank?
- What is the valve part number? I can't find it anywhere...!
- What's my best fuel tank option (buy the salvage tank or is there an aftermarket solution worth considering?)
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Not sure what manual you are looking at that says it can not be removed, The factory ford service manual list it as part number 9B593
quick check on eBay turns up this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Vapor-...rd!95648!US!-1
quick check on eBay turns up this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Vapor-...rd!95648!US!-1
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If I recall correctly, mine, which looks just like yours seemed to be fused/glued/bonded to the plastic tank and did not look to be a replaceable part. It's a vapor outlet only, I would get creative with a tube of silicone to seal it up while keeping the vapor passage clear.
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Expect that it's from an updated electronic service bulletin.
CAUTION: The fuel vapor vent valves cannot be removed or repaired on vehicles equipped with composite fuel tanks.
- Remove the fuel tank.
- Remove the fuel vapor vent valve.
- Slide the clamp away from the fuel vapor vent valve and remove the tube.
- Press down and rotate the fuel vapor vent valve counterclockwise and remove from the fuel tank.
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The factory ford service manual list it as part number 9B593
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If I recall correctly, mine, which looks just like yours seemed to be fused/glued/bonded to the plastic tank and did not look to be a replaceable part. It's a vapor outlet only, I would get creative with a tube of silicone to seal it up while keeping the vapor passage clear.
Don't know that I have the nerve to silicone it. Plus, there are likely bits of plastic trapped in my tank that I wouldn't mind the opportunity to remove.
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Even if it is bonded to the tank, at this point removing it isn’t going to ruin the tank more then it already is...
see if you can un-bond it and then bond in the new one. Trick will be to find the correct adhesive to bond to the poly tank. Me thinks silicon isn’t the answer.
see if you can un-bond it and then bond in the new one. Trick will be to find the correct adhesive to bond to the poly tank. Me thinks silicon isn’t the answer.
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Even if it is bonded to the tank, at this point removing it isn’t going to ruin the tank more then it already is...
see if you can un-bond it and then bond in the new one. Trick will be to find the correct adhesive to bond to the poly tank. Me thinks silicon isn’t the answer.
see if you can un-bond it and then bond in the new one. Trick will be to find the correct adhesive to bond to the poly tank. Me thinks silicon isn’t the answer.
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Plenty of videos and what not on the google but I’d be inclined to go with something like this
edit....plastic is easy to bond to, poly is the tricky part especially when you add gasoline.
https://www.permatex.com/products/sp...or-repair-kit/
edit....plastic is easy to bond to, poly is the tricky part especially when you add gasoline.
https://www.permatex.com/products/sp...or-repair-kit/
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Plenty of videos and what not on the google but I’d be inclined to go with something like this
edit....plastic is easy to bond to, poly is the tricky part especially when you add gasoline.
https://www.permatex.com/products/sp...or-repair-kit/
edit....plastic is easy to bond to, poly is the tricky part especially when you add gasoline.
https://www.permatex.com/products/sp...or-repair-kit/
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whoops... this is the one I would try even though it say “ not for plastic fuel tanks. “
https://www.permatex.com/products/sp...nk-repair-kit/
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