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Old 08-18-2018, 02:49 PM
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Whatís engine is better for towing

We have 30í travel trailer. If itís ever fully loaded it would be about 8000 lbs and and tongue weight off 750. Also most of our towing is hilly. Seeing if the 5.0 or 3.5 which one would be better to get?
 
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3.5 EcoBoost.
 
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Old 08-18-2018, 03:01 PM
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3.5 EcoBoost.
can i ask why?
 
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The torque curve. Full torque comes on low in the RPM range and remains flat as it revs. This means easier towing, especially in hilly terrain. The turbos loose less power as the air thins with elevation.
 
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The torque curve. Full torque comes on low in the RPM range and remains flat as it revs. This means easier towing, especially in hilly terrain. The turbos loose less power as the air thins with elevation.
or go with diesel
 
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3.5 EcoBoost.
Agree. The wider torque band on the turbocharged engine means it shifts less often when the grade changes. The 5.0 pulls fine but wants to do it way up in the RPM band, and will shift a lot to keep it there.

One note - if you're doing extreme hills (steep+long+hot weather) you'll want to lock out some higher gears on the EB to keep RPMs higher than the computer would normally choose. This is to help the engine stay cool, it can generate a whole lot of heat and lower RPMs don't get rid of heat as effectively.
 
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Old 08-18-2018, 05:32 PM
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EB's go to zero spark advance pretty quick when towing any grades. I have one of my Edge Moniters selection on it. At zero degrees your engine will be saved because that's Fords jobs but It causes HEAT. When I had an EB 6 speed I kept selecting a lower gear until I had at least 10 degrees. With the new 10 speed you will have a lot more selections.
There are many companies which offer monitors, they just plug in and can give a lot of information. If you are planning on using your truck to tow most of its use and not as a daily driver order a 3.73 rear gear if you can. I wish I had them with my new 5.0. The 10 speed has 3 overdrives and I never use any of the when towing. 7th is 1 to 1 and generates the least heat. Good luck...
 
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Originally Posted by FORD1976 View Post

or go with diesel
You could. Then let us know how it works for you. It spec out nice and looks like it will do well. But no one here has one yet, so you there is no first hand info. There are some initial reviews here and there if you do a Google search.

Someone here needs to be the first to own one. I say go for it.
 
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The 3.0 is a turd and that's first hand experience. We have 5 of them now at work and they are miserable just like the ram eco diesels. They do give great mid 20's fuel economy but don't go from a 3.5 to a 3.0. The 250hp and 440TQ isn't enough to satisfy.
 
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or go with diesel
Yes - A F250 6.7 power stroke will certainly have no problem with your 8K trailer. You could use the cruse control going up the hills .
 
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Yes - A F250 6.7 power stroke will certainly have no problem with your 8K trailer. You could use the cruse control going up the hills .
I wish I could find a used one at a good price
 
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Originally Posted by JKBrad View Post
The torque curve. Full torque comes on low in the RPM range and remains flat as it revs. This means easier towing, especially in hilly terrain. The turbos loose less power as the air thins with elevation.
+1.

IMO, the initial reviews Iíve seen online show the new diesel is not going to be a towing master. My 1st gen EB with the 6-speed tranny tows like a bull. I can only imagine how much fun the 2nd gen motor must be...I see no reason to get the diesel with all the added exhaust complexity and more expensive fuel.
 
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For what it's worth, I just returned from a 2850 mile trip towing our 5500# travel trailer from PA, north to upstate NY, south to Florida and back to PA with our 2018 3.5L Ecoboost Max Tow. Averaged 11.2 mpg with the cruise set at 65 for the majority of the trip.

Absolutely no lack of power, very stable, and all around a very comfortable trip.
 
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The 3.0L TD V6 is an odd beast, impressive 11,400 lb towing capacity, but the payload capacity is far lower than other F-150's at only 2,020, I don't know why. 2.7 EB is 9,000 and 2,470, respectively. The 3.5L is 13,200 and 3,230. The 5.0L V8 is 11,600 and 3,270. I am looking at the PDF file of Ford's towing capacity. From what I see here, the 3.5 EB is the best choice. V8 has slightly higher maximum payload but lower maximum towing by 1,400 lbs.
 
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Originally Posted by Midnightmoon View Post
For what it's worth, I just returned from a 2850 mile trip towing our 5500# travel trailer from PA, north to upstate NY, south to Florida and back to PA with our 2018 3.5L Ecoboost Max Tow. Averaged 11.2 mpg with the cruise set at 65 for the majority of the trip.

Absolutely no lack of power, very stable, and all around a very comfortable trip.
do you have max tow package
 
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