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FORD1976 08-18-2018 02:49 PM
What’s engine is better for towing
 
We have 30’ travel trailer. If it’s ever fully loaded it would be about 8000 lbs and and tongue weight off 750. Also most of our towing is hilly. Seeing if the 5.0 or 3.5 which one would be better to get?

JKBrad 08-18-2018 03:00 PM
3.5 EcoBoost.

FORD1976 08-18-2018 03:01 PM
Originally Posted by JKBrad (Post 18146859)
3.5 EcoBoost.
can i ask why?

JKBrad 08-18-2018 03:06 PM
The torque curve. Full torque comes on low in the RPM range and remains flat as it revs. This means easier towing, especially in hilly terrain. The turbos loose less power as the air thins with elevation.

FORD1976 08-18-2018 03:21 PM
Originally Posted by JKBrad (Post 18146865)
The torque curve. Full torque comes on low in the RPM range and remains flat as it revs. This means easier towing, especially in hilly terrain. The turbos loose less power as the air thins with elevation.
or go with diesel

ATX SD 08-18-2018 04:53 PM
Originally Posted by JKBrad (Post 18146859)
3.5 EcoBoost.
Agree. The wider torque band on the turbocharged engine means it shifts less often when the grade changes. The 5.0 pulls fine but wants to do it way up in the RPM band, and will shift a lot to keep it there.

One note - if you're doing extreme hills (steep+long+hot weather) you'll want to lock out some higher gears on the EB to keep RPMs higher than the computer would normally choose. This is to help the engine stay cool, it can generate a whole lot of heat and lower RPMs don't get rid of heat as effectively.

jimmy-six 08-18-2018 05:32 PM
EB's go to zero spark advance pretty quick when towing any grades. I have one of my Edge Moniters selection on it. At zero degrees your engine will be saved because that's Fords jobs but It causes HEAT. When I had an EB 6 speed I kept selecting a lower gear until I had at least 10 degrees. With the new 10 speed you will have a lot more selections.
There are many companies which offer monitors, they just plug in and can give a lot of information. If you are planning on using your truck to tow most of its use and not as a daily driver order a 3.73 rear gear if you can. I wish I had them with my new 5.0. The 10 speed has 3 overdrives and I never use any of the when towing. 7th is 1 to 1 and generates the least heat. Good luck...

JKBrad 08-18-2018 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by FORD1976 (Post 18146881)

or go with diesel
You could. Then let us know how it works for you. It spec out nice and looks like it will do well. But no one here has one yet, so you there is no first hand info. There are some initial reviews here and there if you do a Google search.

Someone here needs to be the first to own one. I say go for it.

ford390gashog 08-18-2018 07:22 PM
The 3.0 is a turd and that's first hand experience. We have 5 of them now at work and they are miserable just like the ram eco diesels. They do give great mid 20's fuel economy but don't go from a 3.5 to a 3.0. The 250hp and 440TQ isn't enough to satisfy.

storage_man 08-18-2018 07:41 PM
Originally Posted by FORD1976 (Post 18146881)

or go with diesel
Yes - A F250 6.7 power stroke will certainly have no problem with your 8K trailer. You could use the cruse control going up the hills . :-drink

FORD1976 08-18-2018 07:56 PM
Originally Posted by storage_man (Post 18147215)
Yes - A F250 6.7 power stroke will certainly have no problem with your 8K trailer. You could use the cruse control going up the hills . :-drink
I wish I could find a used one at a good price

onug 08-18-2018 08:10 PM
Originally Posted by JKBrad (Post 18146865)
The torque curve. Full torque comes on low in the RPM range and remains flat as it revs. This means easier towing, especially in hilly terrain. The turbos loose less power as the air thins with elevation.
+1.

IMO, the initial reviews I’ve seen online show the new diesel is not going to be a towing master. My 1st gen EB with the 6-speed tranny tows like a bull. I can only imagine how much fun the 2nd gen motor must be...I see no reason to get the diesel with all the added exhaust complexity and more expensive fuel.

Midnightmoon 08-18-2018 08:19 PM
For what it's worth, I just returned from a 2850 mile trip towing our 5500# travel trailer from PA, north to upstate NY, south to Florida and back to PA with our 2018 3.5L Ecoboost Max Tow. Averaged 11.2 mpg with the cruise set at 65 for the majority of the trip.

Absolutely no lack of power, very stable, and all around a very comfortable trip.

Wiggums 08-18-2018 08:26 PM
The 3.0L TD V6 is an odd beast, impressive 11,400 lb towing capacity, but the payload capacity is far lower than other F-150's at only 2,020, I don't know why. 2.7 EB is 9,000 and 2,470, respectively. The 3.5L is 13,200 and 3,230. The 5.0L V8 is 11,600 and 3,270. I am looking at the PDF file of Ford's towing capacity. From what I see here, the 3.5 EB is the best choice. V8 has slightly higher maximum payload but lower maximum towing by 1,400 lbs.

FORD1976 08-18-2018 08:27 PM
Originally Posted by Midnightmoon (Post 18147323)
For what it's worth, I just returned from a 2850 mile trip towing our 5500# travel trailer from PA, north to upstate NY, south to Florida and back to PA with our 2018 3.5L Ecoboost Max Tow. Averaged 11.2 mpg with the cruise set at 65 for the majority of the trip.

Absolutely no lack of power, very stable, and all around a very comfortable trip.
do you have max tow package


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