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Old Aug 2, 2018 | 09:47 PM
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High speed miss.

I have a 1986 F150 fuel injected 5.0 4x4. Ran great with out any problem until recently. The engine was running fine then fell dead while driving down the road. I replaced the coil due to no spark, no luck still no spark. Ordered a new distributor with new pick up coil and new electronic module already installed. While waiting on the distributor to come UPS I thought I’d check a few other things. Found fuel pressure at rail was 40 lbs but wouldn’t hold so removed tank and checked pump would run but not even 1lb pressure. Replaced tank pump and sock. Got New distributor dropped it in and engine fired right up. Idles great put occasionally will miss. Miss gets worse and more often with increased RPM. Changed plugs and wires, miss remains. At higher speed the miss is almost like the engine stumbles but will recover, very hard miss. The miss is so severe it isn’t drivable. At low speed it will miss every now and again like a plug wire arcing out. Again this truck purred like a kitten prior to it quitting, with no miss at high or low speed.I finally tried a last ditch effort and put on new throttle position sensor. No change in the miss. Have tried to find a vacuum leak and could not. Please help, this miss is driving me nuts. Thanks in advance
 

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Old Aug 3, 2018 | 12:59 AM
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I have a 1986 F150 fuel injected 5.0 4x4. Ran great with out any problem until recently. The engine was running fine then fell dead while driving down the road. I replaced the coil due to no spark, no luck still no spark. Ordered a new distributor with new pick up coil and new electronic module already installed. While waiting on the distributor to come UPS I thought I’d check a few other things. Found fuel pressure at rail was 40 lbs but wouldn’t hold so removed tank and checked pump would run but not even 1lb pressure. Replaced tank pump and sock. Got New distributor dropped it in and engine fired right up. Idles great put occasionally will miss. Miss gets worse and more often with increased RPM. Changed plugs and wires, miss remains. At higher speed the miss is almost like the engine stumbles but will recover, very hard miss. The miss is so severe it isn’t drivable. At low speed it will miss every now and again like a plug wire arcing out. Again this truck purred like a kitten prior to it quitting, with no miss at high or low speed.I finally tried a last ditch effort and put on new throttle position sensor. No change in the miss. Have tried to find a vacuum leak and could not. Please help, this miss is driving me nuts. Thanks in advance
Have you changed the fuel filter ? Also check your plug wires. An easy way to do it is at night and with spray bottle of water. Start the truck and mist the wires with water from the spray bottle any bad wires will show the arcing in the dark.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2018 | 10:58 AM
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Changed the fuel filter when I changed the in tank pump. Brand new wires and plugs and already looked at them after dark. Runs the same as it did before changing the plugs and wires. No dice. Thanks for the advise but I already been there. Should also mention this isn't a small miss but a stumble, a bad cut out like a dead plug but after it misses, then picks up and does ok for 3-4 seconds and stumbles again. Any advise is welcome
 
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What do the codes have to say?
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I would check the timing also. Do you know how to check the timing on this fuel injected engine? There is a little procedure you have to follow and you have to unplug a wire.
 
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Changed the fuel filter when I changed the in tank pump. Brand new wires and plugs and already looked at them after dark. Runs the same as it did before changing the plugs and wires. No dice. Thanks for the advise but I already been there. Should also mention this isn't a small miss but a stumble, a bad cut out like a dead plug but after it misses, then picks up and does ok for 3-4 seconds and stumbles again. Any advise is welcome
A miss at speed is likely not a vacuum leak If it was so bad to cause a miss a speed it would be audible at idle. You will have to pull the codes it could be a sticking EGR valve among a dozens of other different things.
Best to pull the codes to rule out the electronics. Codes in the mem may narrow it down if it a mech problem.
 
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Originally Posted by JimmyBear
Found fuel pressure at rail was 40 lbs but wouldn’t hold so removed tank and checked pump would run but not even 1lb pressure.
Does it hold pressure now ?
I suggest you extend your Fuel Pressure gauge up to you windshield to see if you are maintaining pressure under load.....
 
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