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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 12:36 PM
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Torque limiting

Has anyone tried using Forscan to “fool” the pcu in to thinking it was in Dually to reduce the torque limiting in lower gears?

Seems like it would work if you could find all the parameters that require changing; or am I missing something?

 
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 12:40 PM
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No. Because I'd rather not shred my driveline.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 01:09 PM
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I don't think its as much a driveline issue as the potential for wheel spin. It would just work the traction control that much harder.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DISLTom
No. Because I'd rather not shred my driveline.
Thank you for the productive response. 🙄

 
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 05:28 PM
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ForScan doesn't get into the PCM and TCM. Can't write to those modules.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 06:26 PM
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From a rolling start, I can light up all 4 of my 19.5's in 2nd gear on my F450 (no torque mgmt in 2nd on a DRW). It would absolutely roast the tires in a SRW.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 08:39 AM
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I can light up the passenger rear tire even with my 11K toy hauler connected. That may be may be more of a statement about the lack of "stickiness" of the OEM tires than it is about the torque management.

Is the torque management still active when a trailer is connected?
 
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 10:24 AM
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I can light up the passenger rear tire even with my 11K toy hauler connected. That may be may be more of a statement about the lack of "stickiness" of the OEM tires than it is about the torque management.

Is the torque management still active when a trailer is connected?
I was towing home sunday afternoon in very heavy rain. About 20 minutes from home I have to negotiate a pass through the Blue Ridge that has a stoplight at the bottom of a moderate climb. It was raining pretty hard and I was trying to climb the grade after leaving the stoplight. I was listening to music when it seemed the truck was struggling to climb the grade and instantly noticed the TC light started flashing on the dash. I turned off the music and focused on making the climb. It was actually difficult to get the truck to accelerate up the grade without spinning the rear tires, even being very careful with throttle application. Switching over the 4wd solved the problem instantly. Although I could easily spin all 4 tires if I tried more than adequate throttle.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Clubwagon
I was towing home sunday afternoon in very heavy rain. About 20 minutes from home I have to negotiate a pass through the Blue Ridge that has a stoplight at the bottom of a moderate climb. It was raining pretty hard and I was trying to climb the grade after leaving the stoplight. I was listening to music when it seemed the truck was struggling to climb the grade and instantly noticed the TC light started flashing on the dash. I turned off the music and focused on making the climb. It was actually difficult to get the truck to accelerate up the grade without spinning the rear tires, even being very careful with throttle application. Switching over the 4wd solved the problem instantly. Although I could easily spin all 4 tires if I tried more than adequate throttle.
As the incline increases, the tongue weight decreases (less "normal" force as described in the world of physics). Yet the "load" (pull force requirement) increases with the incline. It's a double whammy; you loose traction but gain sensible load. Add in some Friction Modifier (rain) and it does make for issues such as you describe.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by dnewton3
As the incline increases, the tongue weight decreases (less "normal" force as described in the world of physics). Yet the "load" (pull force requirement) increases with the incline. It's a double whammy; you loose traction but gain sensible load. Add in some Friction Modifier (rain) and it does make for issues such as you describe.
Had the same problem leaving stop lights on level ground, through 3rd gear.

I do understand the load transfer issue. I am a vehicle dynamics engineer.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Clubwagon
Had the same problem leaving stop lights on level ground, through 3rd gear.

I do understand the load transfer issue. I am a vehicle dynamics engineer.
Originally Posted by Clubwagon
Although I could easily spin all 4 tires if I tried more than adequate throttle.
So you do get that spinning more than 3 at the same time is next to impossible right? As there is no locker option on the front...
 
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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 04:17 PM
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So you do get that spinning more than 3 at the same time is next to impossible right? As there is no locker option on the front...

 
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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 04:51 PM
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So you do get that spinning more than 3 at the same time is next to impossible right? As there is no locker option on the front...
oh, wow... you got me.
 
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