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Old Jul 2, 2018 | 07:47 AM
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When I had my truck up on the lift, I noticed that my transmission pan doesn’t look all that healthy. The 2010 truck has only 63k miles on it, but I think the pan is probably aluminum or something. Don’t get me wrong, it doesn’t seem in danger of leaks, but just has the look of blossoming/corrosion. When I change the fluid, I might just change out the pan as well. Has anyone else noticed this and what aftermarket pans have people used. I see where most people want a drain plug and/or a dipstick. I am not looking for increase capacity either. Recommendations?
 

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I don't think I've ever heard of an aluminum oil pan failing because of corrosion, but I imagine stranger things have happened. The pan isn't exactly something that people see going down the road, though...so I wouldn't replace it unless it actually starts to leak. I bet the truck will be long in the junkyard before the metal corrodes though, those things normally last a LONG time.

If you've got money to burn and nothing else to use it on, there are aftermarket pans available. In my opinion there's No real point to it, though.
 
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I don't think I've ever heard of an aluminum oil pan failing because of corrosion, but I imagine stranger things have happened. The pan isn't exactly something that people see going down the road, though...so I wouldn't replace it unless it actually starts to leak. I bet the truck will be long in the junkyard before the metal corrodes though, those things normally last a LONG time.

If you've got money to burn and nothing else to use it on, there are aftermarket pans available. In my opinion there's No real point to it, though.
Of course I don’t have money to burn, but I really can’t imagine it would be crazy expense. It’s not like taking off a perfectly good exhaust system and spending $2000 just to get a better exhaust note (like I read from other members when I got this truck). I will probably have it for a good many years to come and I like to take good care of my things. With that in mind, if I pull the pan to change the fluid and filter, I would think about replacing with a better one.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2018 | 07:54 PM
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What do you consider crazy expensive? An aftermarket pan will be $250-$400 for anything decent, though I wouldn't consider it an upgrade. The factory one holds the fluid in too. If you're worried about the finish, paint it.
 
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What do you consider crazy expensive? An aftermarket pan will be $250-$400 for anything decent, though I wouldn't consider it an upgrade. The factory one holds the fluid in too. If you're worried about the finish, paint it.
Whaaatt? For an oil pan, really? It amazes me sometimes what they think things are worth. I’m going to get on the web and look, now that you’ve got my curiosity up.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 11:43 AM
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Tom ... there are aftermarket pans available ...
Given that unibody62 indicated "...not looking for increase capacity", you'll find that searching results show that there are no transmission pans with drain plugs that retain the OEM capacity.

Now if the transmission was a 4R70W or 4R75W there's F8UZ-7A194-AA (though it has been discontinued and getting more difficult to find) ...


 
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Thanks, I did find a couple of links to more like stock replacement pans, not priced too badly. I think you can add a drain if you want to, or can find a suitable place to add it. Not sure what exactly I will do, but I’ve got some time to think it over. Thanks everyone, for your input.
 
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If you just want a drain, clean it up well and have a bung welded on.
 
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HINT / TIP: When / if you decide to drop the pan, to avoid the trans' fluid bath, remove all of the side and rear bolts, loosen the front bolts ~half-way, have a LARGE catch, drain pan underneath, and using (say) a rubber mallet tap the tran's pan. The rear will drop-down, dumping the fluid in the catch, drain pan you've placed underneath, however, you will avoid a bath.
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Here's the trick: I recently drained mine, and refilled. I used a suction - pump thing you suck oil with. It has a attachment for a hose, which I held on with a hose clamp. Stick hose in fill hole, start suction, remove hose from pump and drop into your catch pan you have there. Gravity will start sucking fluid out. I got out everything this way and then subsequent removal of pan bolts yielded no mess on the ground. No need to pull half the bolts out and wait for the Niagara Falls to stop dripping. I have done this twice now and refilled 11 quarts of fluid now in the trans. Use a long hose on a funnel, tied up next to engine to refill. You will not make any mess this way.
Or get your hair full- its your call........
 
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Here's the trick: I recently drained mine, and refilled. I used a suction - pump thing you suck oil with. It has a attachment for a hose, which I held on with a hose clamp. Stick hose in fill hole, start suction, remove hose from pump and drop into your catch pan you have there. Gravity will start sucking fluid out. I got out everything this way and then subsequent removal of pan bolts yielded no mess on the ground. No need to pull half the bolts out and wait for the Niagara Falls to stop dripping. I have done this twice now and refilled 11 quarts of fluid now in the trans. Use a long hose on a funnel, tied up next to engine to refill. You will not make any mess this way.
Or get your hair full- its your call........
I like that idea. I think it would be even better used to avoid pulling the pan to begin with and just changing the fluid, you'd save a lot of time that way.
 
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Originally Posted by downtowner99
Here's the trick: I recently drained mine, and refilled. I used a suction - pump thing you suck oil with. It has a attachment for a hose, which I held on with a hose clamp. Stick hose in fill hole, start suction, remove hose from pump and drop into your catch pan you have there. Gravity will start sucking fluid out. I got out everything this way and then subsequent removal of pan bolts yielded no mess on the ground. No need to pull half the bolts out and wait for the Niagara Falls to stop dripping. I have done this twice now and refilled 11 quarts of fluid now in the trans. Use a long hose on a funnel, tied up next to engine to refill. You will not make any mess this way.
Or get your hair full- its your call........
I have done something similar using a one gallon jar with my vacuum pump attached to it. I have even pulled the oil from a differential through the check plug/fill hole using it. I plan on using it for extraction on the 6R80. I have also fabbed up a garden sprayer pump to fill the pan on my '05 Explorer 5R55 trans. I made a hooked adapter to use for filling the 6R80 and other things, as well. I don't have a pic of my vacuum jar, right now, but here is the fill pump.
 
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Originally Posted by downtowner99
Here's the trick: I recently drained mine, and refilled. I used a suction - pump thing you suck oil with. It has a attachment for a hose, which I held on with a hose clamp. Stick hose in fill hole, start suction, remove hose from pump and drop into your catch pan you have there. Gravity will start sucking fluid out. I got out everything this way and then subsequent removal of pan bolts yielded no mess on the ground. No need to pull half the bolts out and wait for the Niagara Falls to stop dripping. I have done this twice now and refilled 11 quarts of fluid now in the trans. Use a long hose on a funnel, tied up next to engine to refill. You will not make any mess this way.
Or get your hair full- its your call........
Perfect idea, and I do have a suction pump that my son got me. Does the 6R80 refill hold exactly 11 quarts, or do you have to refill it gingerly, kind of like the manual says? I think it calls for putting in a few quarts, then starting vehicle and running until it gets up to a certain temp, adding more oil, etc. Even so, it sounds much better than pulling the pan full of oil!
 
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Perfect idea, and I do have a suction pump that my son got me. Does the 6R80 refill hold exactly 11 quarts, or do you have to refill it gingerly, kind of like the manual says? I think it calls for putting in a few quarts, then starting vehicle and running until it gets up to a certain temp, adding more oil, etc. Even so, it sounds much better than pulling the pan full of oil!
Well, I sucked the pan dry on Day 1. Pulled out 6 qts and proceeded to replace the filter- cuz, you know, 158,000 miles.....
I refilled, 6 qts. Drove a few weeks, drained again but was only able to get out 3 qts. Refilled with 3 qts. Drove a few weeks, drained out exactly 2 qts because I bought 12 bottles and now have 3 left. Refilled exactly 2 qts. Now I have cycled 11 qts through the trans and I figure I got most of the old fluid diluted out pretty good. I think this trans probably never had any service done like this, its a 2014 with 158,000 so yeah.
My method works very cleanly, but be careful because I did make a mess once not paying attention. If you do not remove the pan you will NOT lose a drop. I guarantee it.
EDIT- I think it holds about 6 qts. I did check the tiny little dipstick before and after.
 

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