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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 04:15 PM
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2017 Rollover Improvements over previous models?

I'm looking at getting another super duty but I'm having a hard time after doing some research. This seems to be an issue with the cab/roof not holding up as I assume one should. Is there an improvement in the 2017+ over the 2016 and previous? If not I may look into getting some kind of roll bar/cage because thats still better than driving a chevy!

I rolled my truck this week (pics below), not a scratch on me thankfully and I was the only person in it. Had a blowout on the rear drivers side tire that sent me into the ditch and rolled at 70mph. I ducked when I realized it was about to roll and I'm pretty sure that saved my rear.






 
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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 07:06 PM
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Glad you're OK.
The old body super duty was known for having a week roof.

The IIHS saftey rating was "good" on the 2015 and up F150 roof which is the top rating given. Same cab so I'd figure the roof on the new Super duty is at least stronger than it was in the previous generation.


BTW that's one of the top reasons I refused to get the sunroof, even if the roof is reinforced around the opening I don't want to risk road rash on my skull.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 07:34 PM
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Crunching the numbers on the IIHS roof strength test, an 8,000 pound truck with the same strength as the f150 would get an "acceptable" rating.

Roof strength test
"A good rating requires a strength-to-weight ratio of at least 4. In other words, the roof must withstand a force of at least 4 times the vehicle's weight before the plate crushes the roof by 5 inches. For an acceptable rating, the minimum required strength-to-weight ratio is 3.25. For a marginal rating, it is 2.5. Anything lower than that is poor."

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/veh...ab-pickup/2017
Peak force was 27,215 lbs

27,215/8000 gives you a 3.40 strength-to-weight ratio.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 08:55 PM
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Holy crap! Glad you walked away without physical harm.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2018 | 10:46 PM
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I have to ask about your blowout. Was that king ranch you were driving new enough to have a tire pressure monitoring system? Were There any warnings?

blowouts on these trucks make me nervous. One reason I tend to replace tires on the early side.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2018 | 07:36 AM
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Had a good friend die in a similar accident. Glad you're ok.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2018 | 03:58 PM
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This may sound crazy, but when my tires are half worn, they get replaced. Same thing on our motorcycles. Waste of money some might think, peace of mind, priceless. I also check air pressures weekly, even with the TPMS system in place. Glad that you are OK. Trucks can be replaced, lives can't.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2018 | 04:41 PM
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Makes me want a roll cage.
 
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Glad you're ok.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2018 | 07:46 PM
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WOW! SO glad to see your such good shape you can post this and share!

Looking at what appears to be a Ranch Hand headache rack it is in an interesting position. If it is a RH unit consider sending a pic to them. They may benefit in consideration of design tweaks.
Since truck is in forward motion the rack gave with a rearward lean. However, it appears to maybe contribute to the amount of crush in the rear cabin maybe reducing the front cab portion from being worse then it could have been.
These truck do sit high. I was considering lowering the rear by removing the block to allow access to bed for SFG. (short fat guy...heh). Don't know if it would contribute to reducing rollover rate.
Thank you for all those pictures.
The Tundra was ready for new KO's before trading it in. Now this makes a point of keeping an eye on tire condition as well as TP.

Keep us up on the new beauty you're going to replace it with!
 

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Old Jul 5, 2018 | 11:03 PM
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Looking at what appears to be a Ranch Hand headache rack!
Does RH still make them? That looks like a Magnum to my poor old SFG eyes...

I need a full body RH dome now, I think along with the grille guard and bumper
 
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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 06:42 AM
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That's very poor roof structure on that truck. HD pickups do very well in pretty much all crashes except rollovers. Part of it is because the gov doesn't require roof strength on a truck to be as strong as it should be, like they do on a car.

I would say the new aluminum cab is a stiffer structure and much more modern and is likely the strongest design for a rollover of any of the major truck makers now. That doesn't make it great. But keep in mind a 2016 Super Duty has the identical cab to a 1999 Super Duty.

Glad you're OK. I've seen other Super Duty rollovers and this one seems particularly severe, especially for just dropping into a ditch.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jakematic
Does RH still make them? That looks like a Magnum to my poor old SFG eyes...

I need a full body RH dome now, I think along with the grille guard and bumper
I just showed my age, bet your correct ...heh...heh..

Either way looks like my truck will morph into a "all guard and no cattle' kindah truck after looking at those pics
 
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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Chinookman
Either way looks like my truck will morph into a "all guard and no cattle' kindah truck after looking at those pics
I resemble that remark! Mine is planned to be my forever truck too.

This thread makes me want to get a headache rack now too...
 
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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jakematic
Does RH still make them? That looks like a Magnum to my poor old SFG eyes...
I don't think it's a Magnum...Magnum doesn't make them with angled lights. Here is my Magnum. As a side note, I don't believe a headache rack is going to offer any significant rollover protection. They are only mounted to a stake pocket and not very rigidly at that.


 
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