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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 03:21 PM
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Got news my ETA is August 20th.

I'm anxious to see if this truck has more grit than my 17 450. It seems to flatten out in mid and upper torque curve. Has been frustrating.

My 18 F350 pulls 25k lbs a lot better. Although with less stability.

Mine is the bottom vin.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 03:23 PM
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I thought Ford would do the power upgrade flash for free? Why not take in the '17 for the latest program?
 
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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 04:04 PM
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Is there a flash for the 17's?
 
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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 04:48 PM
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Yes, when they upped the power from 925 to 935 they offered it to every 2017 owner. There were a few very slight internal engine changes for the '18MY but none that affected power levels. The increase and curve changes were all software changes.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...nd-power-crown

I read somewhere where they will reflash the '17s for free since it was a reaction to Dodge raising theirs but I'm be darned it I can find where I read it.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 06:02 PM
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That would be cool. That 18 power increase is very noticeable towing. Even with 3.55s vs the 450 4.30s.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 06:05 PM
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I think I read that too, but it seems like it was someone speculating.

They changed the heads on the 18s.

I'm trading my 17 also because it has 30k mi. And they're doing the trade for 5000.00
 
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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 09:28 PM
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That would be cool. That 18 power increase is very noticeable towing. Even with 3.55s vs the 450 4.30s.
there is no way your feeling 10hp towing. Thats all placebo man.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Karsseboom


there is no way your feeling 10hp towing. Thats all placebo man.

Agreed... if there was a noticeable difference, it would be product variation and not 10 advertising HP. There's also no way people are getting flashed for more power and not reporting it here either. There's a new SYNC update and people are batchit for weeks. LOL
 
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Old Jun 15, 2018 | 02:56 AM
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I can tell u there is a grade leaving the valley where we live. Towing a 22k lb trailer, the 450 max's at 54mph, the 18 350 goes 59. All the way up.....with 35" km2's.

I would say that's noticable unless you're asleep.

Oh, and the B&O radio is no better than the Sony.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2018 | 05:37 AM
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Again Brandon, it's much more likely to be product variation than the software change. By product variation I mean this. Take any two identically equipped cars/trucks/boats/powersports etc. and one will very often be faster than the other.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2018 | 08:33 AM
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Karl. I think you've been drinking ditch water, buddy.
 
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Ah shucks, you're sweet. But seriously, 10HP can not give you 5MPH on a grade. So, if you dismiss my product variation theory, you'll have to come up with something else because it's not the software flash.
 
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post was :deleted my truck last Friday https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...st-friday.html
 
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the flash can make many changes to the system back pressure shift pattern and other mods. to make a slight difference in hp but big difference in performance . Like adding a bully dog programmer and I can tell you the bully dog makes a difference . look at the link deleted my truck for referance
 
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My theory is that the top end on the 450s is derated in some way. It's noticibly flat. My limits rpm on the 4.30 trucks. Not sure. I even put on a pedal commander. No difference in top end. 18 350 runs strong all the way through.
 
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