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My theory is that the top end on the 450s is derated in some way. It's noticibly flat. My limits rpm on the 4.30 trucks. Not sure. I even put on a pedal commander. No difference in top end. 18 350 runs strong all the way through.
My 17 F450 pulls very strong to 3000 RPMs. I pull Sidling hill (biggest in MD) two mile 6%+ grade at 70 MPH at 26k# around 2700 RPMs
There must be something wrong with mine. Does your fan clutch engage a lot? I need a lot of momentum to get up hills.
After a minute or so WOT up mountains in the summer, I'll hit 225* and the fan will engage loudly for several seconds while the temperature drops to 220* or so.
My 450 and 5th wheel gross out to 34k combined, towing on 285 in Colorado it likes to spin 2800rpm or so in 4th up the passes. Seems logical to me that under that type of load it's going to pick the hear that let's it spin at the peak horsepower. And yah the fan starts screaming
Even better is back down the other side in 3rd gear holding all that weight at 45mph or so without really having to use the brakes. Makes it so confidence inspiring.
With a lower combined weight of 24-26k the 3.55s could actually be quicker if it can pull the load in 4th or 5th in the meat of the power band. At my weight I use all the 4.30s have to offer.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. On the interstates towing and running around 65-70 mph, my 2015 F350 SRW with the 3.55 had more passing power than my '17 F450 does. The 450 just falls on its face when you stomp the pedal at those speeds. My assumption was it just ran out of gear.
If my F450 had a 3.73 rear end, it would be the perfect truck for me.
So, my combined is nearly the same as yours. Also the same when I tow with the srw 3.55 truck with 35s. Though I shouldn't....
In that case....i don't know I figured the 26k comment above was combined.
My 450 is by no means a sports car. I figured the sluggishness was expected pulling a 12ton billboard down the highway.
Honestly after I hitched up the first time and hit the road I remember thinking about all of these "you can't even tell it's there" comment and how wrong they were. I 100% know my 5th wheel is there (and the truck is a dog compared to unloaded) if I do anything more than maintain a constant speed on level ground.
Yeah all the “I didn’t even know the trailer was behind me” cracks me up. I feel my 7500lb box trailer every time I tow it and the truck is noticeably slower.
I highly doubt the 2018 is much different performance wise compared to the 2017.
My 16' F350 Dually did everything better than my 16' F450 except for u-turns. The 4:30's in the 450 were great for getting on the Hwy, all the way up to 84 mph.
Then it just stayed there, 84 mph .. and .. it'd make you cringe every time you crossed an expansion joint on the Hwy. Frik'n brutal.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. On the interstates towing and running around 65-70 mph, my 2015 F350 SRW with the 3.55 had more passing power than my '17 F450 does. The 450 just falls on its face when you stomp the pedal at those speeds. My assumption was it just ran out of gear.
If my F450 had a 3.73 rear end, it would be the perfect truck for me.
I agree on both counts. 3.73s would be perfect. Bumpier than hell on the freeway empty. Put Bilsteins on and that helped quite a bit.
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