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Old 06-12-2018, 08:20 PM
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Beware Advance tech line guys are reading from a computer screen and with me at least, and the parts I was looking for, had no idea what they were talking about.

Rock auto lists one with the sensor port.
APDI/PRO 8011291 4 Row; With Sensor Port
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...,radiator,2172


BUT if you go here to ADPI website and search their site for your radiator, They list part # 8011291 to be a 4 row "with sensor port" When you click on the part number # 8011291
This page says it is a 3 row and it is Copper /Brass.
https://apdi.mycarparts.net/


Now if you go to this site Pitt Auto Electric Company They list a radiator, Ford Part # E9UZ-8005-D but they do not specify if it is a OEM ford part or aftermarket radiator. You could give them a call and see. Its a bit pricey at $457.00 and probably need to add shipping. If it is the actual OEM Ford brand radiator then it would be worth it.
https://www.pittauto.com/item/FOR%20E9UZ8005D
I got that Ford part number by looking it up at Rock Auto after clicking on the More Info tab. Then I did a search that came up with the part number and fitment at a Ford Parts dealer. They have a fitment guide on their site but it does not specify if it has the sensor port or not.
https://www.bluespringsfordparts.com...bC12OC1nYXM%3D
 
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Old 06-12-2018, 10:09 PM
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Beware Advance tech line guys are reading from a computer screen and with me at least, and the parts I was looking for, had no idea what they were talking about.
Yup. Frequently they say, "I am not a parts specialist, go to your store to speak to a parts specialist." And I'm like first, why don't they have parts specialists answering parts questions online, and second, the guy in the store is going to be looking at the same screen I am.

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Old 06-12-2018, 10:25 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to go hunting!

Rock auto lists one with the sensor port.
APDI/PRO 8011291 4 Row; With Sensor Port
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...,radiator,2172
The picture for this one appears identical to the Advance Auto Parts one. In fact I think it is the same picture.

From what I gather, the ADPI one appears to be made of copper/brass like the OEM. It only has 3 rows though, OEM has 4. And the picture appears to show something like a sensor port, though I cannot be sure.

I'll call Pitt tomorrow and see if they stock an actual Ford radiator.

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I took my old one into a shop today and they recommended just buying a new one since they are only about $200.

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What all did the shop say?
Did they give you a price?
Many radiator shops today are going out of business or just replacing them rather then actually rebuilding them.. You might want to check around with different shops and get some referrals if that shop doesn't specialize in vatting and rodding them out .. It yours could be fixed then you would have your 4 core.. There is only one radiator repair shop left near me. There are shops that re-core radiators but I have read that that is expensive.
The old shop I took mine to said they would take it apart and let me know if it was worth cleaning. They told me YES it is in good shape. It is going on 3 years not I believe and no problems..

the only other one I came across was an all aluminum one. They have a 2 row and a 3 row. both have aluminum tanks instead of plastic.
Liland OE Replacement Radiators At StylinTrucks.com

Beechkid mentioned an anode
If you need one they should be under $10 according to amazon... Thai may not be the one for yours I do not know, I just looked one up to see what they cost.
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Here is a bunch of information on aluminum verse copper brass radiators
https://www.cgj.com/2013/07/16/alumi...inal-thoughts/
 
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:34 PM
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I went to Athens Radiator in Athens, Alabama. I was told this guy was very knowledgeable and he has a lot of positive google reviews.

Unfortunately when I asked him if he could hot tank the radiator he said he didn't do that. He said his father-in-law had a shop over in Decatur that did it. I should have gone to the guy in downtown Huntsville I originally intended to go to who said they could hot-tank radiators.

I pointed out the stains on the fins and said, "I don't know if this is from spilled coolant during filling over the years or if this indicates a leaking core." He said, "Hard to tell."

He said re-coring would likely cost $400+. My fear is that hot tanking the radiator will merely expose possible leak points.

That LiLand looks pretty darn good. My understanding is that Aluminum radiators are better than the old copper ones as they are welded which gives better heat transfer than the solder.

Hmm.

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Old 06-13-2018, 10:14 AM
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I'm getting a little skeptical of the Advance Auto Parts radiator. They answered my question and said it is a brass/copper radiator. But if it is only 3 core, and my existing brass/copper OEM radiator is 4 core, then I would assume that their radiator cannot dissipate as much heat as my OEM radiator. Since this is an RV application obviously it has to be heavy duty.

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Old 06-13-2018, 10:57 AM
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Now if you go to this site Pitt Auto Electric Company They list a radiator, Ford Part # E9UZ-8005-D but they do not specify if it is a OEM ford part or aftermarket radiator. You could give them a call and see. Its a bit pricey at $457.00 and probably need to add shipping. If it is the actual OEM Ford brand radiator then it would be worth it.
https://www.pittauto.com/item/FOR%20E9UZ8005D
I called them, and that part number is obsolete and no longer available.

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Old 06-13-2018, 12:31 PM
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Well! I had pretty much settled on the Liland radiator, so I did some googling on that part number! I found it for $237, which is only about $20 more than I paid for the Advance Auto Parts brass/copper 3-row radiator. However, they wanted over $220 in shipping!

So, I chatted with them online, and explained that I could get the radiator from StylinTrucks for $312 with free shipping. They gave me a discount and I got the radiator for $257.62, shipped. The brass 3-row radiator from Advance cast $226.81 shipped (with 25% discount). So this aluminum radiator should offer better performance, and it has the sensor port, and it ended up only costing $30 more in the end.

THANK YOU ANNALEIGH!!!!

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Good deal! You may need some adapters to install the transmission and heater lines depending on what size the threaded holes are. Be careful not to over tighten the fittings as that aluminum will strip real easy.. If you have to use adapters, when installing the lines to the adapters, be sure ad hols a wrench on the adapters so they dont move and strip out in the radiator.. Perhaps use some Teflon tape on the threads or plumbers Teflon in a tube.. use it sparingly so it doesn't have excess that will get into the radiator.

Use the anode in the fill plug I think... You might want to look up info on using a aluminum radiator.
Below is a good article that towards the bottom half talks about how to prevent galvanic corrosion. I like the idea of using rubber insulators to mount the radiator to keep it separate from the van frame so it is not grounded..

We changed the radiator in my moms 78 E100 around 20 years ago and used a plastic aluminum radiator. It is still going strong..
Aluminium Radiators - Galvanic and Electrolytic Corrosion | Super 7th Heaven
 
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:31 AM
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I was thinking about using isolators to electrically isolate the radiator, but then I was reading about it online and realized that the transmission cooler lines will negate that. Unless I want to introduce a rubber splice in the lines. I'm not very keen on that.

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By the way, this is where I ended up buying the radiator with the discount:

https://www.carid.com/liland-global/...-1291aa3r.html

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I was thinking about using isolators to electrically isolate the radiator, but then I was reading about it online and realized that the transmission cooler lines will negate that. Unless I want to introduce a rubber splice in the lines. I'm not very keen on that.

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Do you have a auxiliary transmission cooler in front of the radiator? IF so then you probably already have one line that is connected by heavy duty rubber hose.. Both of my vans have auxiliary coolers. one line goes from the transmission to the radiator while the second line from the transmission changes over just in back of the radiator to a thick hose that runs up to the cooler and another hose from the cooler to the second port on the radiator. So that leaves only one line that would need to be cut.
 
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Yup, already one line has a rubber splice.

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The radiator from Advance Auto Parts came in today. It is not a CarQuest radiator as advertise on the web site:

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...195/15920038-P

Instead, it is a Spectra CU847. The good news is that it is a 4-core radiator like OEM, in spite of the web page saying it was 3-core. The bad news it really does have no sensor port as the web site says, but the picture shows.

I think it would probably work in my application but I am looking forward to the aluminum Liland one arriving and will probably be returning this one.

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I put an all aluminum welded radiator in my 99 and have been more than happy, runs very cool, has 2 extra wide rows of cores, put the reproduction Spectra in my 73, they skimped on 4 rows of cores, didn't think you'd noticed them removed from the outside, replaced with fill plate, being the only choice at all parts stores you are at their mercy, has done nothing but overheat when under load, and their answer to me is the missing orange paper decal they put on the core equals voided warranty, too bad the heat and airflow caused it to come off!
 

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