2017 with 70k miles or 2012 with same
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Mountain Pass
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2017 with 70k miles or 2012 with same
Looking at used 6.7s. What do you think? 2017 single axle f350 had gcwr of 28k+ with 70k miles, but it was a rental/fleet truck. I did the math, that's 5800 miles a month! Any earlier year single axle is limited to 23.5k. I'm at that up to 24.8k at times towing 5th wheel. I can lighten up a bit but not enough to be under that consistently, I don't think. Any dually will do it legally, but then I'm driving a dually. My day job is driving around to people's houses in neighborhoods, which isn't great in a dually. So there is a 2012 with 70k miles also that is 10k cheaper. No exhaust break, and lower hp. But probably still enough truck to tow my rv a coulee times a month. What do you think? Scared of a rental/leased truck that went 70k miles in 365 days? Thank you for your input.
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With that many miles I would expect it to be a lot of highway miles. Those tend to be fairly easy on the vehicle, as opposed to stop and go city driving. So 10K more for a newer truck with similar mileage that's still has some warranty left doesn't sound too bad. But what are the actual prices, not the differential?
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Both are xlt, the 2017 has a backup cam and a few more comforts than the 2012. They want 42k for the 2017 and 32k for the 2012 dually. 2 different places. I did look at the hours but it was not on purpose, so these numbers might not be exact but I thought it said 700ish idle and 1200ish driving. But it could have been 2000 driving. I'll see if I can find out. That was on the 2017, don't know about the 2012.
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In my humble experience, diesels that are actually used hard, but maintianed well, tend to have less issue and run better for the long haul vs.the weekend truck that just get used for short trips and weekend getaways....especially the newer ones with the emissions. I would go for the 2017 if it were me.
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I'm partial to the 2015 + so the 2017 has the same 6.7 upgrades bigger turbo and injectors the 2017 has the same . They always say never buy the first year of any truck . Do you want a Aluminum body truck ? I had the aluminum body trucks at work and really don't like them at all they dent like a beer , most of our trucks look like golf ***** ... LOL
I like the steel body trucks and also could have bought a 2017 or 2018 but chose to fine a low milage 2016 has the same 6.7 but went the extra and got the F450 pickup , with the wide track dana 60 front axle and the big rear Dana 130s only 2015 2016 came with this combination .
I like the steel body trucks and also could have bought a 2017 or 2018 but chose to fine a low milage 2016 has the same 6.7 but went the extra and got the F450 pickup , with the wide track dana 60 front axle and the big rear Dana 130s only 2015 2016 came with this combination .
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Bought the 2017
Hey guys, just to put a resolution to this thread, I ended up buying the 2017 truck.
The gross combined weight rating of a 2017 F350 Single rear wheel is 28000 pounds. A 2016 all the way back F350 single axle grosses at 23500. So for me as my gross combined with my old truck was pushing the 24000 plus Mark with my trailer, and I don't want to be driving a dually, I went with the single axle 2017. That being said, I don't know what curb weight is of these aluminum trucks but I know what they are for the steel trucks 2016 and earlier, hence my decision.
That being said I have towed my 16000 pound fifth wheel from Oklahoma to Dallas to Omaha Nebraska and all I can say is wow! It accelerates uphill, oil temperature never got over 230, was usually around 210, and I didn't even hardly notice it was back there! I did decide to lock it out of 6th Gear coming through the Hills of Northern Kansas and Nebraska, not because I thought it was struggling, but because I was just concerned that it was going uphill with such a low RPM, around 1,500. I don't know what bad that would do, but in 5th gear it was running about 17 to 1900 RPMs at that same speed I was at and that seemed just fine by me.
this is a great truck!
The gross combined weight rating of a 2017 F350 Single rear wheel is 28000 pounds. A 2016 all the way back F350 single axle grosses at 23500. So for me as my gross combined with my old truck was pushing the 24000 plus Mark with my trailer, and I don't want to be driving a dually, I went with the single axle 2017. That being said, I don't know what curb weight is of these aluminum trucks but I know what they are for the steel trucks 2016 and earlier, hence my decision.
That being said I have towed my 16000 pound fifth wheel from Oklahoma to Dallas to Omaha Nebraska and all I can say is wow! It accelerates uphill, oil temperature never got over 230, was usually around 210, and I didn't even hardly notice it was back there! I did decide to lock it out of 6th Gear coming through the Hills of Northern Kansas and Nebraska, not because I thought it was struggling, but because I was just concerned that it was going uphill with such a low RPM, around 1,500. I don't know what bad that would do, but in 5th gear it was running about 17 to 1900 RPMs at that same speed I was at and that seemed just fine by me.
this is a great truck!
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Good Choice Congrads on the new truck and many miles .
Here are a few things I was going to post the 2015+ has over the 2012 truck .
2011 Model Year Changes
Shortly after its release, the output of the 6.7L Power Stroke was increased from 390 hp/735 lb-ft to 400 hp/800 lb-ft. This occurred in response to General Motor's release of their updated 6.6L Duramax diesel. The new power ratings were announced August 3rd, 2010 and a dealer installed PCM upgrade was made available to owners of the original 390 hp model free of charge.
2012 Model Year Changes
• A stamped steel oil pan with a conventional bolt-type oil plug replaced the plastic oil pan and plastic 1/4 turn drain valve.
• The hidden locating stud on the oil cooler was removed for easier service/repair access.
• A second NOx sensor and sensor module were added to the exhaust system, used in measuring effectiveness of the SCR system.
• Revised oil and coolant feed lines for the turbocharger, quick connect fittings replaced with conventional bolt on fittings for improved sealing and durability.
2013 Model Year Changes
• Crankcase ventilation sensor added, signals to PCM whether the crankcase vent hose is connected or disconnected.
• Differential pressure (delta pressure) sensor added to the diesel particulate filter, used in implementing the active regeneration strategy as the filter reaches maximum capacity.
2015 Model Year Changes
The 6.7L Power Stroke underwent significant revisions for the 2015 model year, most of which contributed to or supported the increase in output from 400 hp/800 lb-ft to a maximum 440 hp/860 lb-ft.
• Particulate matter sensor and sensor module added at the DPF outlet in order to measure filtration effectiveness.
• Fuel pressure and fuel temperature sensors for low pressure fuel system combined into a single sensor, no longer two individual sensors.
• EGR cooler flow redesigned, now using the high temperature cooling system (same circuit as the engine) instead of the low temperature system (which still provides cooling for the charge-air-cooler, fuel system and transmission cooler).
• EGR inlet temperature sensor added.
• Revised fan clutch design with additional heat sinks in order to more effectively dissipate heat, thereby improving durability.
• IROX polymer coated lower main bearings introduced for added durability at greater performance levels.
• Larger GT37 single variable geometry turbocharger replaces the GT32 twin compressor "DualBoost" turbo. Improved throttle response and high altitude performance. Wastegate eliminated, turbocharger produces ~30 psi at max load with an impeller speed of ~130,000 rpm.
• New lower intake, required to match new turbocharger.
• Manually activated, more effective exhaust braking system added, works in conjunction with new VGT.
• Upgraded high pressure fuel pump (injection pump). New pump looks identical, but features a longer stroke.
• Revised injector design, more efficiency nozzle design for reduced emissions and improved performance.
• Larger crankshaft damper with more mass.
• Strengthened cylinder head design.
• High capacity torque converter introduced, transmission shift schedule not significantly altered.
Here are a few things I was going to post the 2015+ has over the 2012 truck .
2011 Model Year Changes
Shortly after its release, the output of the 6.7L Power Stroke was increased from 390 hp/735 lb-ft to 400 hp/800 lb-ft. This occurred in response to General Motor's release of their updated 6.6L Duramax diesel. The new power ratings were announced August 3rd, 2010 and a dealer installed PCM upgrade was made available to owners of the original 390 hp model free of charge.
2012 Model Year Changes
• A stamped steel oil pan with a conventional bolt-type oil plug replaced the plastic oil pan and plastic 1/4 turn drain valve.
• The hidden locating stud on the oil cooler was removed for easier service/repair access.
• A second NOx sensor and sensor module were added to the exhaust system, used in measuring effectiveness of the SCR system.
• Revised oil and coolant feed lines for the turbocharger, quick connect fittings replaced with conventional bolt on fittings for improved sealing and durability.
2013 Model Year Changes
• Crankcase ventilation sensor added, signals to PCM whether the crankcase vent hose is connected or disconnected.
• Differential pressure (delta pressure) sensor added to the diesel particulate filter, used in implementing the active regeneration strategy as the filter reaches maximum capacity.
2015 Model Year Changes
The 6.7L Power Stroke underwent significant revisions for the 2015 model year, most of which contributed to or supported the increase in output from 400 hp/800 lb-ft to a maximum 440 hp/860 lb-ft.
• Particulate matter sensor and sensor module added at the DPF outlet in order to measure filtration effectiveness.
• Fuel pressure and fuel temperature sensors for low pressure fuel system combined into a single sensor, no longer two individual sensors.
• EGR cooler flow redesigned, now using the high temperature cooling system (same circuit as the engine) instead of the low temperature system (which still provides cooling for the charge-air-cooler, fuel system and transmission cooler).
• EGR inlet temperature sensor added.
• Revised fan clutch design with additional heat sinks in order to more effectively dissipate heat, thereby improving durability.
• IROX polymer coated lower main bearings introduced for added durability at greater performance levels.
• Larger GT37 single variable geometry turbocharger replaces the GT32 twin compressor "DualBoost" turbo. Improved throttle response and high altitude performance. Wastegate eliminated, turbocharger produces ~30 psi at max load with an impeller speed of ~130,000 rpm.
• New lower intake, required to match new turbocharger.
• Manually activated, more effective exhaust braking system added, works in conjunction with new VGT.
• Upgraded high pressure fuel pump (injection pump). New pump looks identical, but features a longer stroke.
• Revised injector design, more efficiency nozzle design for reduced emissions and improved performance.
• Larger crankshaft damper with more mass.
• Strengthened cylinder head design.
• High capacity torque converter introduced, transmission shift schedule not significantly altered.
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