Track Bar
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Track Bar
Why doesn't Ford make their track bars like this? Is there an after market option like this for our trucks? The 6:53 mark show the track bar ends I am talking about. They have double sided shear joints. Am I missing something? Is there a reason to have the weak 1 sided joints? The frame below without even playing the video shows the joints.
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Ford no... Carli yes
Liquid Steam- have you checked out the Carli trac bar? Beefy and robust...
https://www.carlisuspension.com/ford-trackbar-17.html
https://www.carlisuspension.com/ford-trackbar-17.html
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Liquid Steam- have you checked out the Carli trac bar? Beefy and robust...
https://www.carlisuspension.com/ford-trackbar-17.html
https://www.carlisuspension.com/ford-trackbar-17.html
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The Carli track bar sucks. It's has enough adjustment for 3-4" of lift, but can't be set short enough for 0-2". An extra inch of adjustment, and some gas engine springs, and Carli would be stylin more often.
Thuren has a good bar.
Maybe the Pure Performance bar is worth looking at. It has the bracket as well, like in the vid.
https://www.dieselpowerproducts.com/...SABEgJUsvD_BwE
Thuren has a good bar.
Maybe the Pure Performance bar is worth looking at. It has the bracket as well, like in the vid.
https://www.dieselpowerproducts.com/...SABEgJUsvD_BwE
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[QUOTE=Buliwyf;18013571]The Carli track bar sucks. It's has enough adjustment for 3-4" of lift, but can't be set short enough for 0-2". An extra inch of adjustment, and some gas engine springs, and Carli would be stylin more often.
Thuren has a good bar.
No offense but I had an adjustable Thuren track bar on my Dodge with just a 4 inch lift. The thing lasted about 15K miles and the threaded end where it attaches to the frame self destructed. By the time I noticed, it had me in a downright dangerous situation of completely failing right before a trip where I would be towing. I’ve been spooked on the adjustable track bars ever since. Perhaps I was just unlucky with one of ten thousand bad ones.
Thuren has a good bar.
No offense but I had an adjustable Thuren track bar on my Dodge with just a 4 inch lift. The thing lasted about 15K miles and the threaded end where it attaches to the frame self destructed. By the time I noticed, it had me in a downright dangerous situation of completely failing right before a trip where I would be towing. I’ve been spooked on the adjustable track bars ever since. Perhaps I was just unlucky with one of ten thousand bad ones.
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We've killed a BDS bar as well. Stuff happens. I can handle freak failures. If the jam nut gets rattled loose, these things will vibe and eat all the threads really quick. Bolts are only strong when tight, they are very weak if they are loose and can rattle.
But design failures, bar rubs on stuff, can't be adjusted enough, are very frustrating to me. Like the manufacturer didn't actually try the parts on a truck.
Looking now, it seems like Thuren is Dodge and Toy only now. Bummer.
But design failures, bar rubs on stuff, can't be adjusted enough, are very frustrating to me. Like the manufacturer didn't actually try the parts on a truck.
Looking now, it seems like Thuren is Dodge and Toy only now. Bummer.
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The Carli track bar sucks. It's has enough adjustment for 3-4" of lift, but can't be set short enough for 0-2". An extra inch of adjustment, and some gas engine springs, and Carli would be stylin more often.
Thuren has a good bar.
Maybe the Pure Performance bar is worth looking at. It has the bracket as well, like in the vid.
https://www.dieselpowerproducts.com/...SABEgJUsvD_BwE
Thuren has a good bar.
Maybe the Pure Performance bar is worth looking at. It has the bracket as well, like in the vid.
https://www.dieselpowerproducts.com/...SABEgJUsvD_BwE
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The OE type rod ends are adequate for the application. Although I am sure anybody with a death wobble or what they are calling "bump steer" would argue its not.
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I've always liked the looks of the systems at www.bulletproofsteering.com
They don't have any turn-key options for the '17+, but I bet if you call them they can build it. Prices seem reasonable, quality and sheer beef look great.
(Not associated or trying to sell their products, just like what they offer)
They don't have any turn-key options for the '17+, but I bet if you call them they can build it. Prices seem reasonable, quality and sheer beef look great.
(Not associated or trying to sell their products, just like what they offer)
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2018 F250 Currently running Carli adjustable trac bar with their 2.5" lift with no problems. I don't see why some people are having issues. I ran one on my previous truck with 2.5" ready lift spacers with no issues either??
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We've killed a BDS bar as well. Stuff happens. I can handle freak failures. If the jam nut gets rattled loose, these things will vibe and eat all the threads really quick. Bolts are only strong when tight, they are very weak if they are loose and can rattle.
But design failures, bar rubs on stuff, can't be adjusted enough, are very frustrating to me. Like the manufacturer didn't actually try the parts on a truck.
Looking now, it seems like Thuren is Dodge and Toy only now. Bummer.
But design failures, bar rubs on stuff, can't be adjusted enough, are very frustrating to me. Like the manufacturer didn't actually try the parts on a truck.
Looking now, it seems like Thuren is Dodge and Toy only now. Bummer.
So, I'm wondering. I've always been told the the track bar should be at the same angle as the steering linkage/tie rod. If not, under compression, with the different angles, the axle will needlessly shift creating bump steer. Is this true? I had horrible bump steer on the Dodge that I was talking about with the adjustable track bar but when I put a track bar drop bracket and the factory track bar back on, the bump steer disappeared. Is the adjustable track bar used in place of a drop bracket or used in conjunction with a drop bracket to get your axle perfectly centered? Thanks for your input.
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Any one use or have feedback on the PMF track bar? 2017 Ford F-250/350 Direct Replacement Adjustable Trackbar
Has adjustable 1" FK Heim joints on both ends and same price as Carli
Has adjustable 1" FK Heim joints on both ends and same price as Carli
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Sorry about the cruddy video quality. Apparently you need to be on WiFi to upload in HD... however the sound is still there. It looks like the track bar mount is moving when I turn the wheel.... still too difficult to see exactly what is making the clunk. I need a second pair of hands to manipulate the wheel while I listen under the truck. Does the track bar mount wiggle seem normal?
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That is NOT normal. I think there are about four bolts holding that bracket on. Check those out and the track bar is supposed to be torqued to 416 ft lbs. I don’t worry about the torque too much and I just use a four foot breaker bar. You should have virtually no play in it!!!
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That is NOT normal. I think there are about four bolts holding that bracket on. Check those out and the track bar is supposed to be torqued to 416 ft lbs. I don’t worry about the torque too much and I just use a four foot breaker bar. You should have virtually no play in it!!!