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May 31, 2018 | 01:58 PM

Dwstx

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SOFT BRAKES

02 for escape, hi, I just redid the brakes on my wife's escape, new pads & rotors on front, new drums & shoes on rear, 4 new rubber lines, flushed bleed system with new found, pedal is still soft, any suggestions? Thanks

May 31, 2018 | 04:35 PM

simonsi

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Did you manually adjust up the rear drums? Excessive clearance can cause a long travel before the brakes fully engage.

Otherwise how confident are you there is still no air in the system?

May 31, 2018 | 04:39 PM

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I did adjust then, I vacuum bled the whole system, until I got clean clear fluid on all corners.

May 31, 2018 | 05:04 PM

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I did adjust then, I vacuum bled the whole system, until I got clean clear fluid on all corners.

OK - does the pedal go hard at all or does it go to the floor?

With the pedal as hard as it will go will it hold the car stationary, even with a bit of throttle?

Is the handbrake/e-brake lever coming hard in the 3-5 clicks range on the ratchet?

Does the pedal behaviour change with the hand/e-brake applied?

May 31, 2018 | 05:13 PM

got2bjoester

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You vacuum bled.. are you ABSOLUTELY sure no air was inadvertantly sucked in at any point?

May 31, 2018 | 05:46 PM

Dwstx

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Lol I'm not 100% sure of nothing 😜 I've never had this happen, as far as pedal it gets firm and will stop the car, but from 30mph roll it won't even attempt to activate the abs, just come to a stop

May 31, 2018 | 06:19 PM

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Ok it sounds to me like you have some clearance being taken up, did you manually adjust the drums out then once fitted apply the handbrake in reverse to get the auto-adjuster to finalise the setting?

Other than that it might be worth double-checking the pads are right up against the rotors.

Again, does the pedal behaviour change with the e-brake applied? This alone rules out drum-to-shoe clearance as the problem.

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Jun 7, 2018 | 04:54 AM

SCUDDOG

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It sounds like air is still somewhere in the brake line(s)....

Sep 4, 2018 | 11:33 PM

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RangerDJB

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I'm thinking that the rear drums are the issue here. The shoes have to be just inside the inner diameter of the drums when mounted correctly on rear hub. Good luck

Sep 9, 2018 | 03:59 PM

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As stated above and without peddle fade and have clean replaced fluid at all 4 corners I agree the shoes are most likely in too far. Al little as 1/16 inch in on 1 shoe can equate to as much as 3/16 total but more likely 1/8 and that is too loose for good peddle.