CTS 2 Forced Regen
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CTS 2 Forced Regen
I recently bought a 17 6.7 and was looking at getting a CTS 2 monitor,No tune.Did a search on here and just want to confirm the info as it was a bit unclear to me.
With just the CTS 2 monitor, Can you do a forced Regen if the truck didn’t come with the option?Or do I have to program the truck with the option through FORScan?
With just the CTS 2 monitor, Can you do a forced Regen if the truck didn’t come with the option?Or do I have to program the truck with the option through FORScan?
Laughing Gas
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No, cannot do a forced regen with the CTS2, nor can you program the truck via FORSCAN to do a forced regen.
The CTS2 is nice to monitor the truck, but it doesn't command anything other than clear DTCs.
Unless you are outside of the 99.5% of users, there really is no need to command a regen on the 17+ 6.7. The computer takes care of regen management. Even if you stop in the middle of a regen, it's not a problem. Yes, I monitor my truck with a CTS2 and note when the truck is in regen, but it is more of an engineer's habit to monitor performance than of a necessity to change driving style. Unless you have a service truck that idles for hours on end, every day, week after week, there is no need for commanded regen. Even with commanded regen, you have to be in Park with the e-brake on. Spend your money how you want, but dumping a gallon of fuel into the truck while parked, vice just driving and having a regen occur while getting where you're going doesn't make much sense.
The CTS2 is nice to monitor the truck, but it doesn't command anything other than clear DTCs.
Unless you are outside of the 99.5% of users, there really is no need to command a regen on the 17+ 6.7. The computer takes care of regen management. Even if you stop in the middle of a regen, it's not a problem. Yes, I monitor my truck with a CTS2 and note when the truck is in regen, but it is more of an engineer's habit to monitor performance than of a necessity to change driving style. Unless you have a service truck that idles for hours on end, every day, week after week, there is no need for commanded regen. Even with commanded regen, you have to be in Park with the e-brake on. Spend your money how you want, but dumping a gallon of fuel into the truck while parked, vice just driving and having a regen occur while getting where you're going doesn't make much sense.
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Forced regen is usually labeled manual regen. I know on my 2015, I can do a manual regen. I am not sure if you have to be at a certain level of full with the DPF before you can perform the regen.
The programming of the option is only for the IPC screeen to show the Exhaust Filter. It did seem to be on 2011-2012 trucks, enabling this screen would allow some to do the manual regen.
Use the FORScan to do a manual regen. It is cheaper than the CTS/CTS2.
The programming of the option is only for the IPC screeen to show the Exhaust Filter. It did seem to be on 2011-2012 trucks, enabling this screen would allow some to do the manual regen.
Use the FORScan to do a manual regen. It is cheaper than the CTS/CTS2.
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No, cannot do a forced regen with the CTS2, nor can you program the truck via FORSCAN to do a forced regen.
The CTS2 is nice to monitor the truck, but it doesn't command anything other than clear DTCs.
Unless you are outside of the 99.5% of users, there really is no need to command a regen on the 17+ 6.7. The computer takes care of regen management. Even if you stop in the middle of a regen, it's not a problem. Yes, I monitor my truck with a CTS2 and note when the truck is in regen, but it is more of an engineer's habit to monitor performance than of a necessity to change driving style. Unless you have a service truck that idles for hours on end, every day, week after week, there is no need for commanded regen. Even with commanded regen, you have to be in Park with the e-brake on. Spend your money how you want, but dumping a gallon of fuel into the truck while parked, vice just driving and having a regen occur while getting where you're going doesn't make much sense.
The CTS2 is nice to monitor the truck, but it doesn't command anything other than clear DTCs.
Unless you are outside of the 99.5% of users, there really is no need to command a regen on the 17+ 6.7. The computer takes care of regen management. Even if you stop in the middle of a regen, it's not a problem. Yes, I monitor my truck with a CTS2 and note when the truck is in regen, but it is more of an engineer's habit to monitor performance than of a necessity to change driving style. Unless you have a service truck that idles for hours on end, every day, week after week, there is no need for commanded regen. Even with commanded regen, you have to be in Park with the e-brake on. Spend your money how you want, but dumping a gallon of fuel into the truck while parked, vice just driving and having a regen occur while getting where you're going doesn't make much sense.
Laughing Gas
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From: Seattle area
Forced regen is usually labeled manual regen. I know on my 2015, I can do a manual regen. I am not sure if you have to be at a certain level of full with the DPF before you can perform the regen.
The programming of the option is only for the IPC screeen to show the Exhaust Filter. It did seem to be on 2011-2012 trucks, enabling this screen would allow some to do the manual regen.
Use the FORScan to do a manual regen. It is cheaper than the CTS/CTS2.
The programming of the option is only for the IPC screeen to show the Exhaust Filter. It did seem to be on 2011-2012 trucks, enabling this screen would allow some to do the manual regen.
Use the FORScan to do a manual regen. It is cheaper than the CTS/CTS2.
Laughing Gas
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From: Seattle area
Please explain how to do this on a 17+ 6.7 without the factory manual regen option. LOTS of guys want to know.
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Not sure what you're talking about "use forscan to do a manual regen". Not an option on the 17+. You can enable an info screen that shows the % full, but the computer takes care of the rest. There are some guys that are using strategies to work around the computer regens (apparently they are smarter than the ford engineers who designed the motor), but again, for the 99.5% user, this only introduces inefficiencies in regen.
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Post Fiend
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You need to check this thread about FORScan and AB data. It is involved but does discuss the static/manual/forced regen.
FORScan and As-Built Data - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums
here is one post about the static regen with FORScan.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...&postcount=584
FORScan and As-Built Data - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums
here is one post about the static regen with FORScan.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...&postcount=584
Laughing Gas
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From: Seattle area
You need to check this thread about FORScan and AB data. It is involved but does discuss the static/manual/forced regen.
FORScan and As-Built Data - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums
here is one post about the static regen with FORScan.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...&postcount=584
FORScan and As-Built Data - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums
here is one post about the static regen with FORScan.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...&postcount=584
The issue is, the regen strategy and operation are significantly different on the 17+ 6.7 when compared to the 11-16. Completely different animal. Ford adjusted all regen controls to fully automated unless you specifically order a manual stationary regen option on an XL truck. The truck doesn't tell the driver it's doing a regen and requires no operator input or acknowledgement. There are guys with 100k+ miles already on their '17 6.7 that will say "what is a regen?". It is simply a non-event now ('17+). Guys coming from '16 and earlier key on regen status because you always saw notifications. Not the case, and no necessity now. If you miss multiple regens due to short operating cycles on a 17+, it will tell you drive to clean, but there are very few reports of receiving that message in the 17+ forums.
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Fleet Mechanic
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Ok thanks guys!I guess I need to do so reading.I won’t be idling long and I have a short trip car for the store runs.I just wanted to have a backup in case driving to complete a Regen was difficult for some reason.I guess it’s cause this is my first DPF equipped truck And I really don’t know how it’s gonna act to my driving style.I was hoping I could just get a CTS 2 and be done with it.Not gonna lie...FORScan is a bit overwhelming.
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