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Old 12-04-2019, 10:31 AM
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Or check out Ford.com and check rebates which is $1,000 special ford credit and $1,250 retail offer?
Why would I do that, you're the one asking if it's a good deal. You want me to assume what rebates you got and do the reverse math? You might also have $750 aged inventory, none of that matters to me. The dealer discount is the only thing that varies, everyone gets the same factory rebates.

If I assume you got all $3k in factory rebates plus the $2500 PCO, that means the dealer discount is something like $5100. On an MSRP like that, they would be selling to you at barely a couple hundred under invoice. Once again, not a good deal on a 19, even if this wasn't the end of year.
 
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by George C
Same here Don.

Flyct, it’s simple.
Any dealer doing 2K under on a new order does it as either as a favor or as part of another deal. For me, I did a fair, dealer/customer trade for our Expedition which had nice rebates and a PCO attached, and I piggybacked the deal with a 2K under price on a clean deal 2020 SD order.
To get 2K off won’t work for someone walking in the door and asking, unless it’s a stock unit that is collecting dust. But, I would say that aggressive dealers will split the holdback to make a sale.

I have a small Ford dealer across the street from my business, but ownership thinking is stuck back in 1970 where they think every deal must be huge profit maker....and they wonder why local customers go to other dealers for their Ford vehicles.
Not in my case. I had no trade in and have never purchased from the dealer before. I followed the suggestion of another user that was posted in an old thread that I found on this forum. Here's what I did:
  1. Built the truck on the Ford website exactly how I wanted it.
  2. Looked up as many dealers within an acceptable range to me and either found the internet sales manager email from their website, or filled out the "Contact us" form asking for the internet person.
  3. Emailed all the dealers (I think I sent out about 12-15 emails) with a PDF of my build sheet. Told them I was sending it to many dealerships, and wanted to give them the opportunity to provide a quote. Told them I wanted to place an order by the end of the month. Additionally:
    1. Quotes should be for the exact specifications shown, no extras and no deletions.
    2. Quotes should be an out-the-door price, and include deaker selling price, all dealer added fees, shipping, handling, taxes, title, fees, and any applicable rebates/incentives, etc.
    3. Quotes should be their very best and final. I'd be comparing the quotes I received and narrowing the field to a final selection.
    4. If selected, I’d need the quote in writing when we place the order and I’d place a deposit ($1K).
    5. Any new applicable incentives offered by Ford prior to taking delivery that can be applied will not cause their offered selling price to increase, but could potentially lower the out-the-door price quoted.
    6. I do not have a trade-in.
    7. I will not be financing.
    8. I will take delivery as soon upon arrival as possible so that it will not need to sit around on the lot (saving them overhead costs).
I received some quotes at invoice, couple just below, and about 3 that were significantly below (1500 - 2000). My local dealer quoted me at "we won't be beat on price". So I set up a meeting, showed them my best quote (which I was really happy with), and in 5 minutes they said "No problem, we can do that deal." Bonus for me as it saved a 150 mile each way drive to the dealer with the best quote. Easiest process I've ever experienced, and it felt like I was in control of the whole thing.
 
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:32 AM
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I picked mine up Friday, zero BS. I did end up coming up with a 1k PCO on top of this and I did get 48 gallons of fuel. This is Koon's in Baltimore-Delshawn Planter
 
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Originally Posted by 16_superduty
Good deal?
MSRP $76,065
2019 F350 CCLB Lariat 4x4
$67,900 with Ford financing (south florida rebates)
$65,400 after PCO of $2,500
Plus tax and DMV, no additional fees (yes I'm sure as I just purchased a raptor from same person 2 weeks ago)
good deal on 2019 is 20% off 15k off msrp plus ttl.

10k dealer discount
+ 1250 rebate
+750 Select Inventory" Retail Customer Cash
+ 1000 ford finance
+ 2500 pco
 
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:00 AM
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I picked mine up Friday, zero BS. I did end up coming up with a 1k PCO on top of this and I did get 48 gallons of fuel. This is Koon's in Baltimore-Delshawn Planter
Looks like a good deal to me. If I'm correct on the math, they gave you around $9750 off + rebates. Plenty of dealers wouldn't be as generous on an order. I'm in a state that doesn't add that freight back on the end, but I understand that is normal in other states. So if I was trying to make a comparison to maybe some local deal, an $8200 dealer discount would be about the same. Just mentioning that because it's good to consider things like that when comparing deals in other states.
 
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:22 AM
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Why would I do that, you're the one asking if it's a good deal. You want me to assume what rebates you got and do the reverse math? You might also have $750 aged inventory, none of that matters to me. The dealer discount is the only thing that varies, everyone gets the same factory rebates.

If I assume you got all $3k in factory rebates plus the $2500 PCO, that means the dealer discount is something like $5100. On an MSRP like that, they would be selling to you at barely a couple hundred under invoice. Once again, not a good deal on a 19, even if this wasn't the end of year.
On this particular unit it does not have the $750 aged unit. So that brings it $5,850 in dealer discount. Florida does not remove and then add the freight. This dealer does not charge doc or dealer fee
 
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Old 12-04-2019, 01:28 PM
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Finally pulled the trigger. Thanks to the link posted by jred2255, I was able to secure the $2500 PCO. Might be better deals had, but I thought this one was fair, so I decided the time was right. Pick it up tomorrow!

 
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Old 12-04-2019, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteHCFord
Finally pulled the trigger. Thanks to the link posted by jred2255, I was able to secure the $2500 PCO. Might be better deals had, but I thought this one was fair, so I decided the time was right. Pick it up tomorrow!

So your rebates were-

$2500 PCO
$1250 Ford Financing
$1000 Cust cash

what was the extra $750?

old inventory rebate?

 
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Old 12-04-2019, 04:18 PM
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Yes. I think it's 90 days or longer qualifies for the extra $750
 
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Thanks for link, traded in my '17 Platinum Ultimate with 60k miles for a '19 Platinum Ultimate. $14k off MSRP it was a no brainer to pay $13k for a new truck. If anyone is in the market I'd highly recommend Loveland Ford.
 
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:16 PM
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If you do the survey, is it a guarantee to get the PCO prompt to fill in? I've done about 5-6 surveys this evening, but it just goes back to the main ford.com site when I complete it. I'm using Chrome incognito with ads and popups allowed.
 
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Old 12-05-2019, 12:40 AM
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If you do the survey, is it a guarantee to get the PCO prompt to fill in?.
Absolutely not. I haven't tried today, but these links die off, meaning they eventually stop providing the PCO.


Edit; It was working in and out of incognito for me yesterday, now nothing.
 
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Old 12-05-2019, 05:21 PM
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Absolutely not. I haven't tried today, but these links die off, meaning they eventually stop providing the PCO.
Edit; It was working in and out of incognito for me yesterday, now nothing.
Thanks for that information, I will keep trying and hopefully get one
 
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:07 AM
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I will be placing a new order tomorrow for a 2020 thanks to my new PCO of $2500.00
MSRP = $79,500,
Invoice = $74781
Dealer markdown under invoice = $800.00
PCO = $2500.00
Rebates = $1000.00
Final price $70481.00 plus tax, title, and lic

Im pretty happy with those numbers.
 
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Snowtower 2
I will be placing a new order tomorrow for a 2020 thanks to my new PCO of $2500.00
MSRP = $79,500,
Invoice = $74781
Dealer markdown under invoice = $800.00
PCO = $2500.00
Rebates = $1000.00
Final price $70481.00 plus tax, title, and lic

Im pretty happy with those numbers.
Your PCOs will probably expire on 1-2-2020 which will do you no good. . Better check.
 


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