PMGR starter
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PMGR starter
Quick question:
I read through Gary's write up and didn’t see this mentioned. Do I need a dedicated ground from the starter to the frame? If so, what post does it come off of? I’ve got three posts on my starter. The post that has the spade terminal with the wire that goes to the output side of the solenoid also has a black wire on it, see pick below. But none of the diagrams i see show to ground it.
I read through Gary's write up and didn’t see this mentioned. Do I need a dedicated ground from the starter to the frame? If so, what post does it come off of? I’ve got three posts on my starter. The post that has the spade terminal with the wire that goes to the output side of the solenoid also has a black wire on it, see pick below. But none of the diagrams i see show to ground it.
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What is the reasoning for wiring the PMGR starter to the opposite terminal on the starter solenoid? How does that not keep the starter from going non stop? Last night I touched the battery cable to the battery out of curiosity and the starter immediately started. I don't have the ignition switch wired up yet, so I assume that this condition won't be an issue when I wire the ignition up. I am moreso just curious of how it works.
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If the battery cable is touching the motor terminal ( the one with the braided wire going into the starter) you would hear the starter run when you connect the battery but it wouldn't be cranking the engine. The only way the starter will engage the flywheel and crank is if there is voltage on the switch terminal ( the one with the spade connector). You also could remove the pigtail since it isn't connected. The pigtail is there to eliminate the spade connection. Ford changed the design in later years because of a corrosion problem with the spade.
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It’s definitely cranking the engine. I’ve got it wired like the diagram above with the switched going to the opposite side of the starter solenoid from the battery. The starter battery wire is going to the battery side of the solenoid.
I do not have the ignition switch connected at all. Is that why this is happening?
I do not have the ignition switch connected at all. Is that why this is happening?
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Pull the switch wire off of the starter. If it still cranks when you hook up the battery I would suspect a defective starter. If it doesn't crank, check the switch wire to see if there is voltage on it.
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It’s definitely cranking the engine. I’ve got it wired like the diagram above with the switched going to the opposite side of the starter solenoid from the battery. The starter battery wire is going to the battery side of the solenoid.
I do not have the ignition switch connected at all. Is that why this is happening?
I do not have the ignition switch connected at all. Is that why this is happening?
It should be done as such
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All the write ups i have found, including Gary’s, says that the PMGR starter is to be wired like that diagram. That was really weird to me too. Every other starter and solenoid I’ve worked with has been as you show.
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Do not use the start relay to switch the start solenoid as they rely on a higher amp draw to insure continuity.