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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 09:35 AM
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I went to the Banks Tech tAlk site and found this about turbo cool down.

MYTH #7
You have to let a turbo-diesel idle for two minutes before you shut it off.


FACT
This is a current myth that has a basis of fact stemming from many years ago. It also has a kernel of truth regarding today’s turbocharged gasoline engines that operate at higher peak exhaust temperatures than turbo-diesels. In the early days of turbochargers, the turbo shaft was supported by a babbitt bearing that could seize, or even melt, if the engine was shut off immediately after sustained boost conditions where the turbocharger would “heat soak”. A two minute cool down at idle allowed the turbocharger to dissipate any remaining spinning inertia, and the oil circulation cooled the bearing and prevented oil “coking” in the bearing area. Turbochargers haven’t used babbitt bearings for over 30 years, and today’s oils resist coking. Synthetic oils won’t coke, period. With a turbocharged gas engine, it’s still good insurance to let the engine idle for 30 seconds to a minute to allow the turbo(s) to dissipate any inertia and to cool the bearing area to prevent oil coking, especially if the engine has been worked hard just prior to shut-down. Of course, using quality synthetic oil eliminates this potential coking problem.

Today’s turbo-diesels are a different story. There is really no reason to “cool down” a turbo-diesel these days, but you won’t hurt anything by doing it either. You can still find people who swear you have to do it, but the myth is fading. Maybe they just like to sit and listen to the radio.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 09:43 AM
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I have the just the Ford Factory Alarm installed by the dealer and the remore does lock and unlock the doors while the engine is running.

Plus you can put a CLUB(are they still made??) on the steering wheel for just that little extra deterrence.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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I have the dei viper 550 and it does all I want with the remote start and is fully programable, the only differance between the 550 and the higher models is the pager system, the window option will take a 100$ addon and there is a required relay when you use this system with the ford diesels. The relay was only a few dollars.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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Here is a cool down product you can buy the 300 degree cool down or 400 degree model.

Part =
Isspro Turbo Temp Monitor R4130 (Diesel)

Maybe motorhaven can order them for you.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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Valet mode???? This is the stock alarm. Don't really think it is a full functioning alarm system. How do you put it in Valet mode? I can refer to my owners manual if it is there. Mine is a 99, don't know if that makes any difference.

P.S. Are there any comments to the myth? I sure would love to forget about this cool down thing.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by HeatStroked
I went to the Banks Tech tAlk site and found this about turbo cool down.

MYTH #7
You have to let a turbo-diesel idle for two minutes before you shut it off.


FACT
This is a current myth that has a basis of fact stemming from many years ago. It also has a kernel of truth regarding today’s turbocharged gasoline engines that operate at higher peak exhaust temperatures than turbo-diesels. In the early days of turbochargers, the turbo shaft was supported by a babbitt bearing that could seize, or even melt, if the engine was shut off immediately after sustained boost conditions where the turbocharger would “heat soak”. A two minute cool down at idle allowed the turbocharger to dissipate any remaining spinning inertia, and the oil circulation cooled the bearing and prevented oil “coking” in the bearing area. Turbochargers haven’t used babbitt bearings for over 30 years, and today’s oils resist coking. Synthetic oils won’t coke, period. With a turbocharged gas engine, it’s still good insurance to let the engine idle for 30 seconds to a minute to allow the turbo(s) to dissipate any inertia and to cool the bearing area to prevent oil coking, especially if the engine has been worked hard just prior to shut-down. Of course, using quality synthetic oil eliminates this potential coking
problem.

Today’s turbo-diesels are a different story. There is really no reason to “cool down” a turbo-diesel these days, but you won’t hurt anything by doing it either. You can still find people who swear you have to do it, but the myth is fading. Maybe they just like to sit and listen to the radio.

I was hoping somone would chime in and offer this info. It's funny how obsessed you start to get about taking care of your truck.......after all aren't these TRUCKS. My opinion is why have such tuff and ruggid machines if you treat them like fragil girlfriends. I always believed strongly in playing hard, staying up on maintenance, being smart and when it breaks then fix it. But please don't baby the thing!
 
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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Sorry, doubt it has a valet mode if it is a stock "alarm". Carry an extra key... It is just as easy.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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Valet mode might be activated on some Ford Factory Alarms. The blinking LED doubles as the push button switch.

If I find my manual I will try to post the instructions for valet.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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Good, another myth expossed. This is my firts PSD but not my first Ford and I've heard alot of these "tips" about diesels. I treat my tuck with tender loving care in changing fluids and filters, warm up / cool down and a lite foot on the trottle(sometimes you just have to tromp on it though) but I still work it like a truck, towing and hauling. I've looked at adding all the goodies you can but the truck does everything I want just stock with no worries. Another reason not spend a fotune (more than the truck) to improve something that is already really good...............
 
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 06:54 AM
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Myth or not, my owners manual says to idle the truck for several minutes after extended periods of hard running (not in those exact words). When I drive home at night, I'm basically idling during the last few miles of the trip, so I just shut it down when I get in the driveway. When I drive the 7 hours to Vermont, the last 4 miles of which is a steep twisty dirt road, I let the thing cool down for about 7-10 minutes, before I shut down.

Seems prudent.

-Shawn
 
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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Well, I ended up purchasing a Blitz Fatt DC III turbo timer. They are univesral turbo timers that have sveral features.

They are small, digital, and inexpensive. Read a lot of write ups and spoke to a few diesel shops that have installed them.
I guess I'll see how it works.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 11:42 PM
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Apexi has them as well... I think they have this little one for about $100.00 and it is like 1/4in by 3in...pretty small.

Mark
 
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 09:39 AM
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SMB is correct. The Ford 7.3 Diesel Supplemental Owner's Manual does read that after extended periods of highway or off-roading use, to let the engice idle for several minutes before shutting off.

And not to idle over tall, dry weeds or grass
 
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by HeatStroked
Well, I ended up purchasing a Blitz Fatt DC III turbo timer. They are univesral turbo timers that have sveral features.

They are small, digital, and inexpensive. Read a lot of write ups and spoke to a few diesel shops that have installed them.
I guess I'll see how it works.
how was the install on the fatt dc III
 
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 04:03 PM
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I'll post to let you know.
I don't expect it in until Friday and unable to install until Monday.
I have spoken to a few people who have installed them on their PSD's with no problems.
 
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