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Old Apr 3, 2018 | 09:24 AM
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Random Loose Wire Behind Cluster?



Hello all. Truck is a 77 F150. I am trying ti fix all of the hacks the previous owner did. One main issue is there are no gauge lights....

Previously there were red LED adhesive strips stuck to the cluster. And tapped into a wire coming from behind the dash. I cut that fof and trashed it, however I cannot find where the wire is "Supposed" to go. Below is a pic, any insight is awesome!

First pic is where it was cut off. Second is where it goes behind the dash. It connects to a big plug with a few other of the gray with red wires.
 
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That might be for your cigarette lighter. However, the blue/red which is plugged into it looks like it was from the gauge light circuit. I'll bet it has a constant 12V+.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2018 | 09:34 AM
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Is there power in it?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2018 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JessyJ
Is there power in it?
Not gonna lie. No idea. Should I check power with the key turned and then with the lights on or no?
 
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Check with key off, key in acc position, and key on.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2018 | 09:43 AM
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That might be for your cigarette lighter. However, the blue/red which is plugged into it looks like it was from the gauge light circuit. I'll bet it has a constant 12V+.
Cigarette lighter didn't work. Another giant pain in the *** cause I can't charge my phone on trips. It has a lead on the back of it for power, but it is currently on my parts shelf as I didn't know which wire went to it.
 
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Originally Posted by JessyJ
Check with key off, key in acc position, and key on.
Okay. I will check all three and report back later tonight.
 
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I'm betting that it's hot anytime a battery is in the truck.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2018 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by meangreen92
I'm betting that it's hot anytime a battery is in the truck.
So you are assuming that it is intended for the cigarette lighter to function and give accessories power?

That would be good and bad. Good that I could fix that part of the truck. Bad that, it means I still have no idea why my gauge cluster does not illuminate.
 
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Originally Posted by BDodson
So you are assuming that it is intended for the cigarette lighter to function and give accessories power?
Hopefully I only made an *** of me...

Check to see that you have tail lights coming on with the headlights. If not, that would point to a fuse. (I think/assume they share the fuse on these trucks.)
Does your HVAC controls and headlight and wiper switch labels light up? Factory radio? Could be your headlight switch too. Does it turn on the domelight like it should? And just in case you're not one of us old farts, you do know that the headlight switch is the dimmer for those lights, correct? Counter clockwise will brighten the dash lights, and eventually turn on the domelight.

The other possibility is that the light bulbs are simply burned out. There are two for the gauges, one for the lights/wiper switches, one for the HVAC, and one in the factory radio. If all the bulbs are good, inspect the cluster shell for crumbling/erosion around the bulb socket holes. Ford or their vendor used the wrong kind of plastic for several years.
 
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Originally Posted by meangreen92
Hopefully I only made an *** of me...

Check to see that you have tail lights coming on with the headlights. If not, that would point to a fuse. (I think/assume they share the fuse on these trucks.)
Does your HVAC controls and headlight and wiper switch labels light up? Factory radio? Could be your headlight switch too. Does it turn on the domelight like it should? And just in case you're not one of us old farts, you do know that the headlight switch is the dimmer for those lights, correct? Counter clockwise will brighten the dash lights, and eventually turn on the domelight.

The other possibility is that the light bulbs are simply burned out. There are two for the gauges, one for the lights/wiper switches, one for the HVAC, and one in the factory radio. If all the bulbs are good, inspect the cluster shell for crumbling/erosion around the bulb socket holes. Ford or their vendor used the wrong kind of plastic for several years.

Okay a lot to dissect.. Currently I ahve another post where my taillights don't work.... ALOT of wiring issues. I also have no radio. I will check to see if the HVAC control illuminates. I do have headlights, high and low. And I do know about the switch be the dimmer. The dome light does not work either. I highly considered buying a painless harness or a new OEM harness. However after I pulled the cluster out there wasn't many wires disconnected. Two that went to the radio, one that was in the T/S switch which I replaced completely, this one and then some issues with my brake light switch I think you've already lent some advice on.

All the fuses looked fine, I inspected them Sunday. I will double check though and then see what illuminates and what doesn't. No visual corrosion on the cluster at all, and I will check the bulbs just to be safe.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2018 | 03:48 PM
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Originally, I think that BLUE/red went to the cluster lights, with a WHITE/blue connection to it.

Gauges have the 18 grey pin connector on the back where the printed plastic dealie is....it's #10 on it....#9 (BLACK) is the cluster ground.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2018 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BDodson

All the fuses looked fine, I inspected them Sunday. I will double check though and then see what illuminates and what doesn't. No visual corrosion on the cluster at all, and I will check the bulbs just to be safe.
I blew a fuse once and looked them all over and thought they were good. Checked again w/ a multimeter on continuity and found the blown fuse.

The green plug w/ the yellow wire and blue wire is for your radio. Your index finger is almost pointing to it. You could temporarily wire you up something to get your cigarette lighter working so you can charge your phone.
 
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