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Old Apr 1, 2018 | 11:02 PM
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65 Steering Box options, Manual

I've tried using the search with no luck.
Question is:
1965 F100 steering box rebuilt, replace, or?
It seems as though the 65 manual steering box is a one year only, not many parts available situation. Even basic parts like seal kits.
My box is getting to be as sloppy as a 13 year olds room.
Are there parts, replacement boxes, rebuilders out there?
Or even power conversions like what Borgeson makes for other applications(I've installed one of those on a 65 Mustang for some one).
 
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Originally Posted by 1965GTFB
Question is: 1965 F100 steering box rebuilt, replace, or?

It seems as though the 65 manual steering box is a one year only, not many parts available situation.

Even basic parts like seal kits.
There is no seal kit.
C5TZ-3504-D .. Manual Steering Gearbox / Obsolete

1965/72 F100/250 2WD; 1967/72 F350.

All the parts are obsolete, but some are available NOS .. You could send it to Red Head Steering Gears in Seattle and have it rebuilt.

Upper pic = C5TZ-3504-D: 3524 is the steering shaft; 3552/3571 are the steering shaft bearings and races; 3575 is the sector shaft; 3576 are the sector shaft bushings.

3581 is the sector shaft gasket; 3591 is the sector shaft seal, 3783 is the steering shaft seal.

 
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Is Red Head good? I've read differing reviews.

The #s on the box on the truck are: on Tag HDC B 4L 19B. Need to scrape off some grease to read the #s on the case and pitman arm.

I have another box with a pitman that I picked up several years ago. The #s on it are: on Tag HDC B 5JO 1B 1, on case C5TA-3550, on pitman arm C5TA-3590A then maybe -69 on the end that's hard to read.
Figuring it's the same box as what is on the truck now. I plan on pulling the box off the truck and doing some type of okie scientific testing with a dial indicator on both to see which box has less play.

I know from the Mustangs I've built that those use NLGI #1 grease, thick enough to not run out like gear lube and not as thick as wheel bearing grease that will stick in the corners. Same grade, NLGI #1 for a F100?
 
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Originally Posted by 1965GTFB
Is Red Head good? I've read differing reviews.

The #s on the box on the truck are: on Tag HDC B 4L 19B. Need to scrape off some grease to read the #s on the case and pitman arm.

I have another box with a pitman that I picked up several years ago. The #s on it are: on Tag HDC B 5JO 1B 1, on case C5TA-3550, on pitman arm C5TA-3590A then maybe -69 on the end that's hard to read.
Figuring it's the same box as what is on the truck now. I plan on pulling the box off the truck and doing some type of okie scientific testing with a dial indicator on both to see which box has less play.

I know from the Mustangs I've built that those use NLGI #1 grease, thick enough to not run out like gear lube and not as thick as wheel bearing grease that will stick in the corners. Same grade, NLGI #1 for a F100?
HDC-B = C5TZ-3504-D Steering Gear / C5TZ-3590-A = 1965/66 F100/250 2WD Pitman Arm
 
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Old Apr 2, 2018 | 09:26 AM
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I've driven down to RedHead Steering in Auburn, WA a few times since they are only about 30 minutes or so away from me. It is a fairly small operation with about 10-15 employees total. They seem well organized and do a nice job from what I have seen, but like any business they can't please everyone.

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Originally Posted by 1965GTFB
Is Red Head good? I've read differing reviews.

The #s on the box on the truck are: on Tag HDC B 4L 19B. Need to scrape off some grease to read the #s on the case and pitman arm.

I have another box with a pitman that I picked up several years ago. The #s on it are: on Tag HDC B 5JO 1B 1, on case C5TA-3550, on pitman arm C5TA-3590A then maybe -69 on the end that's hard to read.
Figuring it's the same box as what is on the truck now. I plan on pulling the box off the truck and doing some type of okie scientific testing with a dial indicator on both to see which box has less play.

I know from the Mustangs I've built that those use NLGI #1 grease, thick enough to not run out like gear lube and not as thick as wheel bearing grease that will stick in the corners. Same grade, NLGI #1 for a F100?
 
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Old Apr 2, 2018 | 09:31 AM
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I put a read head on my Excursion and just recently on my '65, both have been excellent, very helpful customer service. Not cheap.
 
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I have one I took off my 65
if only you were closer
 
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Another option for a rebuilder in North Dakota being discussed in the 1967-1972 forum.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-gear-box.html

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