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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 11:40 PM
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Issues with turbo...

2004 6.0 with 186k. Just made the switch to premium blue 15w40 when this seemed to happen buy I doubt it's the oil. Brother in law has same truck made same switch and no issues. I'll be cruising along at 55 mph and punch it and truck doesn't do a think for a good 6 to 7 seconds. Then turbo kicks in and half *** goes. Try it again, gets better. After about 5 times it finally decided to act right when i floor it and boom its off to the races like she had always done. Truck is straight piped with egr delete. At idle now it no longer whistles. Sounds mellow like when the AC compressor kicks on for a sec. Check the boots and no leaks ... One is new.. besides after what feels like forever it takes off like normal . I went to pass someone today on a 2 lane highway and I completely passed them and was getting back in front before it kicked in. I know it's not normal. Any suggestions what to look for. I have torque pro if it helps I just don't know what to look at . No codes at this time ..
 
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Old Mar 30, 2018 | 03:18 AM
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Do you have an 03 engine in your 04 (check by the ICP sensor location)?

EBP sensor clean, tube clean? MAP hose in good condition (not plugged up and no holes in it)? What are the EBP, MAP, and Baro readings at KOEO?

VGT connector on tight?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2018 | 06:16 AM
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Check the y pipe v band clamp fir a hidden leak. Check all intercooler boots for splits,, especially the bottom of the one coming out of the turbo.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2018 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bismic
Do you have an 03 engine in your 04 (check by the ICP sensor location)?

EBP sensor clean, tube clean? MAP hose in good condition (not plugged up and no holes in it)? What are the EBP, MAP, and Baro readings at KOEO?

VGT connector on tight?

Here are the readings koeo . I haven't inspected the ebp sensor.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2018 | 03:31 PM
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Scan it for codes, do you get anything?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2018 | 05:13 PM
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No longer whistles..........perhaps the vanes are not sweeping.......also makes me think this when you say after a few attempts it acts normal, almost like the VGT solenoid finally overcomes the sticky vanes.

When is the last time the turbo was out for a cleaning?

 
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Old Mar 30, 2018 | 08:14 PM
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Check your vgt %. I am guessing that it is hanging at 85 or 15%. Betting on sticking turbo.

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Old Mar 30, 2018 | 10:11 PM
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Sticking turbo is where my money is at.

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Old Mar 30, 2018 | 11:22 PM
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I've had it for 15k and have not cleaned it. It's hard to watch vgt going down the road.. lol.. or will I be able to tell in the driveway. Did it today at the worst possible time . Boat ramp!!! Get the boat all the way up the hill then wants to go.

No codes set.

Just at a local shop said AIT sensor would do it too.

I've had a boot cracked then popped off 3 times after a new one before I reached for dollar store aqua net. It's a new tube but I did inspect it and it not cracked / blown out.

 
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Old Mar 30, 2018 | 11:32 PM
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you didn't post enough sensor data to determine a Bad Sensor yet

Baseline looks ok

more info
 
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Old Mar 30, 2018 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bismic
Do you have an 03 engine in your 04 (check by the ICP sensor location)?
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Old Mar 31, 2018 | 12:29 AM
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Unless I missed something I just posted what was asked. Tell me what you want posted and I'll post it. Icp is on oil rail up front .
 
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Old Mar 31, 2018 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by theservicegroup777
Unless I missed something I just posted what was asked. Tell me what you want posted and I'll post it. Icp is on oil rail up front .
Watch vgt% when you throttle it to accelerate. If during or after it stays at 85% or 15% then you have a sticking turbo.

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Old Mar 31, 2018 | 08:23 AM
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Do you have an 03 engine in your 04 (check by the ICP sensor location)?

EBP sensor clean, tube clean? MAP hose in good condition (not plugged up and no holes in it)? What are the EBP, MAP, and Baro readings at KOEO?

VGT connector on tight?
I thought all the early builds the EBP value as inferred, Mark?

At any rate, we know he has the 04 engine now judging by the ICP location
 
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Old Mar 31, 2018 | 08:56 AM
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Only the 03's and 04's with the 03 Engine (engine builds prior to Sept 29, 2003) had the inferred EBP strategy applied in the 06E17 action (2006 PCM flash update).

I know there is some debate on this (regarding an inferred stragegy on ALL 6.0L's), but clearly Ford manuals target the EBP sensor and plugged tube as potential causes of surging, etc. (turbo control related issues) in the late 04 and up model years.
 
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