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Old 03-11-2018, 11:55 AM
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It appears as though I should be happy not to be afflicted with "audiophile-osis".......I know my wallet is LOL
 
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It appears as though I should be happy not to be afflicted with "audiophile-osis".......I know my wallet is LOL
Same. LOL!
 
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What I'm trying to understand is whether there are any functional upgrades to the 2019 stereo. I heard they were adding a wifi hotspot, for example. I'll end up swapping my speakers anyway but if the headend is changing with new features that's not so easy.
 
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What I'm trying to understand is whether there are any functional upgrades to the 2019 stereo. I heard they were adding a wifi hotspot, for example. I'll end up swapping my speakers anyway but if the headend is changing with new features that's not so easy.
Pretty much everyone here just replaces the speakers, DSP and amps. No one really replaces the head unit unless they didn't get the 8" Sync 3 option.
 
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It's a truck radio, what do you want? Lol
yes it's a truck.....but for some of us it's a luxury vehicle that happens to have a bed in the back. It's a luxury daily driver that has the capability of getting down and dirty. It's a truck with a $80k price tag. I really enjoy my trruck and it's the nicest truck I've ever owned. I would enjoy it much more if it had a high end audio system.
 
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Old 03-11-2018, 03:23 PM
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The alpine system in my 14 megacab played satellite radio 10x better than my $76k ford does. I really only listen to music through my phone connected via usb now.
One rule of thumb is the better the sound system the worse inferior source material will sound on it. XM/Sirius has a serious bandwidth problem. They have too many channels for too little bandwidth. As a result music sounds like a really poor quality MP3. You can test this with Spotify streaming via Bluetooth. The free Spotify streams at 160 kbps. That's pretty decent for a free service. If you pay for the subscription service, the quality goes up to 320 kbps.

Pandora in comparison, streams at 64 kbps, which is why it sounds like crap.

Sirius/XM OTOH sounds even crappier. That's because they're streaming at 32 kbps. Compare that with a standard CD, which has encoded music equivalent to 1411 kbps. No wonder Pandora and especially Sirius/XM sound so bad!

Now some car stereos have built in equalization in an attempt to make poorer source sound better. No matter. The rule is "garbage in, garbage out".

A better sound system will only serve to expose the flaws of the source material.
 
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I rode in a 2018 the other day, and didn't find the B&O to have any noticeable difference than the Sony in my 2017. Now the B&O that came in my BMW X6 is amazing!
 
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I was unable to tell the difference between the B&O and the sony, I have them both. Best way to describe them is "good enough".
 
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I ordered an 18 just before the '19 order guide came out...
I was anxious over the B&O system and the fact that Fordpass were on the 19s....
With the B&O in the same boat as the Sony, I don't feel so bad...
 
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Researching further, the headunit, made by panasonic, will remain the same with most of the changes being tuning and possibly different speakers. Mostly it looks to be a lable change. B&O play is described as a lower cost option to traditional B&O quality. All are owned by Harmon (Karden) corp with Samsung being the parent company.
 
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How are you guys testing it? SiriusXM or MP3? I buy everything on CD and rip to AIFF. Then plug my phone in directly to USB, so I get the full 44.1/16. MP3 sounds crap on everything. SiriusXM is even worse.
 
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Old 03-11-2018, 10:37 PM
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I've heard the Alpine in the Dodges. Pretty decent. Like I say, I had 4 08 F350s and the Audiophile system sounded really good.
 
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Originally Posted by slownsy
B&O is not a separate company but the abbreviation, and you are driving a truck not in a concert hall.
Frank.
They absolutely are, Harmon purchased B&O (the cheaper line) from Bang and Olufsen a few years ago, and used the name under a licensing agreement

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...s-in-2017/amp/
 
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They absolutely are, Harmon purchased B&O (the cheaper line) from Bang and Olufsen a few years ago, and used the name under a licensing agreement

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...s-in-2017/amp/
For what it's worth, Harmon Kardon had the exclusive rights for the Harley Davidson stereo head units and they sucked a big one.
 
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Old 03-12-2018, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Wes Hightower
For what it's worth, Harmon Kardon had the exclusive rights for the Harley Davidson stereo head units and they sucked a big one.

You're absolutely right on that one!
 


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