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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 04:11 PM
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My dealer told me that you have to make 4 payments before you can refinance from Ford Motor Credit, or they will take that $500 rebate away. Is this true?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 04:49 PM
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My dealer told me that you have to make 4 payments before you can refinance from Ford Motor Credit, or they will take that $500 rebate away. Is this true?
Check your rebate fine print, but no, generally I would say that's the dealer trying to make sure they get their cut from financing.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 05:48 PM
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... or they will take that $500 rebate away.
After the papers are signed and you take delivery, exactly how would they accomplish that? Dealer told me to go ahead and refi ASAP ... and I did 2 days later.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 07:57 PM
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My original salesperson told us the same thing, wait 3 months to refinance. I waited 3 days and financed with my credit union for a much less interest rate. No harm no foul. It is a dealer advantage for you to wait but screw the dealer. They make plenty on the sale.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 08:05 PM
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Only because they lose their finance commission if you refi within 90 days. Do it as soon as the papers are signed, you won't lose anything.

I would totally call them out on their lying right to your face.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by stangDiesel
My dealer told me that you have to make 4 payments before you can refinance from Ford Motor Credit, or they will take that $500 rebate away. Is this true?
Your dealer lied. Paid mine off just as my sales-guy recommended at first payment.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 07:38 AM
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ok, sounds good, I think I will go ahead and do that asap.
thanks
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 08:46 AM
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So if you take the customer cash and refi early. Does Ford Credit keep track of that and possibly not give you loans on future trucks? I buy a new truck every 3-5 years. On my 2017 it was a $1200 customer cash, I would hate to get blackballed and not be able to get that discount on the next truck.

On the other side of the coin, I developed a small tear in my Platinum seat in less than 5,000 miles, Ford said they will not warranty it. So I'm like, I'll take my loan some where else.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 08:52 AM
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I refinanced just as the first payment was due. So my credit union made the first and only payment to FMC. No word from the dealer and I know the general manager personally and he's never said a word.
 
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Does Ford Credit keep track of that and possibly not give you loans on future trucks? I buy a new truck every 3-5 years. On my 2017 it was a $1200 customer cash, I would hate to get blackballed and not be able to get that discount on the next truck..
You may feel different, but I personally don't care about FMCC antics. The way I see it, the interest I save financing through my credit untion is greater than the discount. FWIW, I only financed $16K, and when I did a refi at the credit union, I got 1% cash back on the refi amount ... which was an extra $160 in my savings account I was not expecting. That cash back makes my effective loan APR about 1.9% over 3 years. YMMV
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 09:22 AM
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On my '15 250 i made one payment and my '17 350 i didn't make any. Give them a couple weeks to process everything. As soon as I got the welcome to FMCC letter, I called to get the account number and payoff. I refi'd with my credit union and dropped 2.5%.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 10:09 AM
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yes, I will go from 9.0 to 4.4 when I refi. I just want to put some on the principle before doing so. Maybe 1 payment with extra to principle or do it right before the first payment?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 10:15 AM
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Wow, those APRs sound high. FMCC was 7% and my credit union was 2.9% before the 1% cash back.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 12:48 PM
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its better for 60 months though
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 02:28 PM
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Finance guy told me same thing "Make sure to wait three months before you refinance." I asked why and he told me that they don't receive their kickback from FMCC unless we keep the loan for three months.

The current incentive when I bought my truck was $750 to take the FMCC financing. So I took their financing at 5.9% and received the $750 credit. 3 days later I refinanced with my credit union at 1.79%. If I would have keep the Ford loan for the 3 months the difference in interest was considerable and would have negated most of the savings benefit of the $750 credit.

Using an auto loan calculator with amortization schedule you can figure out the cost of the interest difference between the two loans. $758.09 (FMCC Interest for 3 months) - $229.64 (Credit Union Interest for 3 months) = $528.45

So the cost to me to keep the Ford financing was $528.45 more than refinancing. So like I said I refinanced as soon as possible. It has been 7 months now and no one from Ford has called asking for their $750 rebate back.

For general reference here's the breakdown of total interest paid over the life of the loan between the two options.

Amount Financed $52,000
FMCC loan at 5.9% = $9872.31
Credit union loan at 1.79% = $2881.11
Difference = $6991.20

So now you can see why Ford wants to finance your loan for you at a higher rate. The $750 that they give you is a pittance compared to the total interest.
 
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