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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 04:01 PM
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Need some advice

I got a 1988 F-150 excab short bed 4x4 6in lift and 33in all terrains I want to put 35in tires but don't know what gearing needs to be added. The truck has 3.55 gears 5.0 motor C6 transmission ifs NOT solid axle. What's do I need to do to run 35" all terrains? I don't haul anything and I drive back roads so 55-60 is my normal speed
 
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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 04:17 PM
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With the 5.0 motor I'd suggest 4.56 gears.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Conanski
With the 5.0 motor I'd suggest 4.56 gears.
I'm not to keen on gearing so what would that mean by using 4.56?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWaffles
I'm not to keen on gearing so what would that mean by using 4.56?
That means you need to change the axle gears to 4.56.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 05:15 PM
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Let me be more specific for you. What does that mean for mpg, acceleration, torque, and rpms? Just overall power wise.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWaffles
Let me be more specific for you. What does that mean for mpg, acceleration, torque, and rpms? Just overall power wise.
Using 4.56 gears will get you back to stock or slightly better performance. The truck would have come with, I believe, 29” tires.
 
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Right, 4.56 gears and 35" tires is mechanically the same as stock(29.5") tires and 3.73 gears which is right in the sweet spot for the 5.0. Fuel milage won't be as good as stock because you'll be pushing big heavy tires around in a lifted truck but it'll probably be a lot better than what you're getting now and towing and overall performance will be improved a lot as well.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 11:06 PM
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Also, keep in mind that the same size tire from different manufacturers measure different actual diameters.

I concur that 34-35 inch tires w/ 4.56 ratio would be a good all around set up.
I currently have 4.56 ratio and run a 33" (32.5" new) and it may be a little too deep for constant highway use. (Thank heaven for overdrive.)

I considered going to 35" tire to alleviate the less highway friendly-ness rpm, but then determined that the accelerated wear on bearings, ball joints and breaks wasn't worth the increase in tire size.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 07:36 PM
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Most you guys agree 4.56 gears is the way to go in my case, but Id like to know what about running 3.73, 3.90, or 4.10 gears. What's are the advantages and disadvantages. I want lowerish rpm but don't want to top out at 60mph. Thanks
 
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None of those ratios are any use to you. The problem is the 5.0 makes no useful power below 2000rpm so you need to forget about hwy cruising at anything less than that. The motor needs to be turning at least that much rpm by the time aerodynamic drag starts to become significant(60+mph). 4.56 gears just gets you there at 65mph and even at 80 you're still only doing 2500rpm in OD so you haven't got to worry about "topping out" with too much gear, but you will have that problem if you don't select enough gear.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Conanski
None of those ratios are any use to you. The problem is the 5.0 makes no useful power below 2000rpm so you need to forget about hwy cruising at anything less than that. The motor needs to be turning at least that much rpm by the time aerodynamic drag starts to become significant(60+mph). 4.56 gears just gets you there at 65mph and even at 80 you're still only doing 2500rpm in OD so you haven't got to worry about "topping out" with too much gear, but you will have that problem if you don't select enough gear.
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​​​​So in overdrive I'll on be doing about 2500 rpms at 60+ BUT what if I have a C6 transmission which is only a 3 speed? Same rpms or alot different? Basically 3speed trans, 35"tires, 5.0, 4.56= what rpm at 65mph?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Conanski
None of those ratios are any use to you. The problem is the 5.0 makes no useful power below 2000rpm so you need to forget about hwy cruising at anything less than that. The motor needs to be turning at least that much rpm by the time aerodynamic drag starts to become significant(60+mph). 4.56 gears just gets you there at 65mph and even at 80 you're still only doing 2500rpm in OD so you haven't got to worry about "topping out" with too much gear, but you will have that problem if you don't select enough gear.
With 4.56 gears a C6 transmission which is a 3 SPEED 5.0 V8 and 35" tires I'll be at about 2500 rpms at 65mph. Not that I'll do 65mph just it might be necessary sometimes. Kinda like I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it, y'all know what I mean? Thanks guys
 
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Honestly I would suggest not running a tire larger than a 33 with a 5.0. The 302 just doesn't make much torque and to be honest I have never driven an F150 of this era with tires larger than 33 that actually drove well.
 
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