Notices
2015 - 2020 F150 Discuss the 2015 - 2020 Ford F150
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Radiator shutters

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 12:29 PM
  #1  
jimmy-six's Avatar
jimmy-six
Thread Starter
|
Laughing Gas
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,019
Likes: 6
From: Fountain Valley
Radiator shutters

My 2018 has radiator shutters and my 2013 did not. Our truck always seemed to heat up quickly which I liked. I never noticed the shutters; but now that I did I notice they are always open even then the truck has sat over night and the temp in in the 40's. Any ideas.. I have not looked for a fuse yet but plan on today.

I have an Edge Monitor plugged to the diagnostic receiver so I see the temp. Thanks for any ideas
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 12:37 PM
  #2  
AeroCare's Avatar
AeroCare
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 169
Likes: 1
From: East Texas
Originally Posted by jimmy-six
My 2018 has radiator shutters and my 2013 did not. Our truck always seemed to heat up quickly which I liked. I never noticed the shutters; but now that I did I notice they are always open even then the truck has sat over night and the temp in in the 40's. Any ideas.. I have not looked for a fuse yet but plan on today.

I have an Edge Monitor plugged to the diagnostic receiver so I see the temp. Thanks for any ideas
What state is Fountain Valley in ?
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 12:45 PM
  #3  
CR172's Avatar
CR172
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,597
Likes: 83
From: N. Texas
From the Interwebs....

Some new Ford vehicles feature active grille shutters — a new system that optimizes aerodynamics by using vents to control airflow through the grille to the cooling system and engine compartment. If air is required to cool the engine, the vents are opened. If no airflow is needed, the vents are shut, contributing to significantly reduced aerodynamic drag.
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 12:56 PM
  #4  
AeroCare's Avatar
AeroCare
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 169
Likes: 1
From: East Texas
"...If no airflow is needed, the vents are shut, contributing to significantly reduced aerodynamic drag...."

So if yours are always open you're correct in looking for that fuse, it might as simple as that.
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 01:00 PM
  #5  
CR172's Avatar
CR172
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,597
Likes: 83
From: N. Texas
Originally Posted by AeroCare
"...If no airflow is needed, the vents are shut, contributing to significantly reduced aerodynamic drag...."

So if yours are always open you're correct in looking for that fuse, it might as simple as that.
My money is on that when everything is powered off, the vents are open. They will close when in motion.
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 01:08 PM
  #6  
CR172's Avatar
CR172
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,597
Likes: 83
From: N. Texas
Mounted ahead of the radiator, the active grille shutters feature motorized horizontal vanes that can rotate 90º to block airflow. Automatically controlled by the car’s electronic control unit, the vanes can be rotated into 15 different positions — from fully closed to fully open — depending on the amount of cooling air required.

When fully closed, the reduction in drag means the active grille shutters can reduce CO2 emissions by 2%.

As an additional benefit, the system keeps the vanes closed as long as possible when starting from cold, so the engine reaches its most efficient operating temperature quicker. This also helps reduce fuel consumption.
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 01:11 PM
  #7  
AeroCare's Avatar
AeroCare
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 169
Likes: 1
From: East Texas
Of course Ford would install an additional circuit to tell the ECM that it's moving so now close the shutters. Must be an engineer justifying his salary, lol.
It seems to me that it would have been simpler to default position them to closed and open them when the temps say they're needed then close again when power is removed or when temp says not needed. Who cares if the vehicle is moving or not.
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 02:54 PM
  #8  
jimmy-six's Avatar
jimmy-six
Thread Starter
|
Laughing Gas
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,019
Likes: 6
From: Fountain Valley
CR, I totally understand the theory and agree with you on aero and when cold. If I find the fuse is OK I'll be stumped. This morning I started the truck the looked and they were open. It was 41*. I should have looked first. I would like it to go back to where it heats up a little quicker because really don't drive that long after first starting...
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 03:12 PM
  #9  
GlueGuy's Avatar
GlueGuy
Lead Driver
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 5,879
Likes: 358
From: Mts. S. of San Francisco
Originally Posted by AeroCare
It seems to me that it would have been simpler to default position them to closed and open them when the temps say they're needed then close again when power is removed or when temp says not needed. Who cares if the vehicle is moving or not.
My opinion is that it would be best to have them open when the engine is off. This would provide a "fail safe" condition such that if the vanes were not working, they would be open. If they failed in the closed position, you could be in a heap of trouble.
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 03:23 PM
  #10  
AeroCare's Avatar
AeroCare
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 169
Likes: 1
From: East Texas
Originally Posted by GlueGuy
My opinion is that it would be best to have them open when the engine is off. This would provide a "fail safe" condition such that if the vanes were not working, they would be open. If they failed in the closed position, you could be in a heap of trouble.
Not having seen them in person I didn't know they were that close to the radiator that they would prevent air flow if stuck closed. That in itself would be a design flaw.
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 03:55 PM
  #11  
Tdog02's Avatar
Tdog02
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
From: Central Texas
When you turn the truck off, they (active grille shutters) open. Have someone shut it off for you and watch it happen.
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 04:00 PM
  #12  
CR172's Avatar
CR172
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,597
Likes: 83
From: N. Texas
Originally Posted by Tdog02
When you turn the truck off, they (active grille shutters) open. Have someone shut it off for you and watch it happen.
This makes sense since them being open would help cool the radiator.
 
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2018 | 10:52 AM
  #13  
PupnDuck's Avatar
PupnDuck
Fleet Mechanic
20 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,464
Likes: 103
From: Staten Island, NY
A little light reading...

Active Grille Shutter The active grille shutter actuator positions the active grille shutters based on commands from the PCM . The active grille shutter moves 90 degrees from fully closed to fully open and, based on the position commanded by the PCM , is set in 1 of 16 positions (approximately 6 degrees between positions).During normal operation, the active grille shutter may be partially to fully open when the engine is off depending on the ambient temperature. After an engine starting event, a self-calibration of the active grille shutter system occurs which typically takes 15-20 seconds. The active grille shutter system performs the calibration sequence by detecting the end positions, open and closed. The calibration sequence can begin in either direction, open or closed, and continues until it is successful or a fault is sensed. A long pause may occur between the 2 portions (open/close) of the calibration sequence. If certain faults are present (shutter blocked or actuator error), a re-calibration is initiated in an attempt to resolve the problem. If the problem is not resolved after a calibrated number of re-calibration attempts (usually 3 or 4), a timer starts and sets a DTC when the timer reaches a predetermined limit.NOTE: If equipped with 2.7L and 3.5L GTDI, the upper and lower active grille shutter actuators operate independently from each other and transmit/receive unique commands to/from the PCM . Each active grille shutter actuator reports unique Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs). The PCM communicates the desired position (open, closed or in between) of the active grille shutter systems. The upper active grille shutter control is based on various PCM inputs (vehicle speed, coolant temperature, ambient temperature, A/C system pressure, etc.). If equipped, the lower active grille shutter control is dedicated to managing charge air temperature into the turbocharger, and is based on PCM inputs such as vehicle speed, turbo charge pressure, ambient temperature, charge air temperature, etc...The PCM communicates to the active grille shutter actuator(s) via a LIN . The LIN supports bi-directional communication between the active grille shutter actuator(s) and PCM , allowing the active grille shutter actuator(s) to communicate position and fault information to the PCM .The PCM sets active grille shutter Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) when the fault information is communicated by the active grille shutter actuator for a predetermined amount of time. Any failures of the LIN for over 10 seconds continuously results in the active grille shutter actuator positioning the active grille shutter fully open. There is no indication to the driver of the vehicle when a fault with the active grille shutter system is present or a active grille shutter DTC is set in the PCM .
 
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2018 | 11:02 AM
  #14  
AeroCare's Avatar
AeroCare
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 169
Likes: 1
From: East Texas
I knew it, waaaay to complicated, LOL !!
 
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2018 | 10:25 PM
  #15  
jimmy-six's Avatar
jimmy-six
Thread Starter
|
Laughing Gas
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,019
Likes: 6
From: Fountain Valley
Thanks Pup...I read all you wrote. I can find no fuse directly to it and for the time being I haven't seen any other position other than wide open. Like I originally said the truck takes longer to heat up than it did when purchased 5 months ago; so I'm wondering why when I found the shutters. If they are open its fine. The truck still heats up to 195-198 but just takes longer than when new. At the next service I'll mention it and see what happens. A tech may have a test they can do. Thanks for your input....
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:09 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE