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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 11:37 PM
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Payload....what arent i getting?!?!

Hello all,
Excuse my ignorance, but i was looking at my door sticker and it states that i have a 2,120lb(10,000gvwr) payload, yet according to Ford, i should have a 3,250lb payload! How is there over a 1,000lb difference?!
2015 F-250 XLT FX4, Crew Cab, 4WD, 156"wb






 
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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 11:52 PM
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my truck weighs around 6600-6800lbs, so that should still give me a little over 3000lbs payload with a 10,000gvwr!!
 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 04:03 AM
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Gas or Diesel?

According to https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...SB_Updates.pdf, there is 634lbs difference in Curb weight between Gas and Diesel alone, which directly translates into the payload capacity:

 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 06:54 AM
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The maximum payload rating is for a truck equipped with only those options needed to achieve the rating, and no others.

Your truck likely is not equipped for the maximum rating.

The limit on your truck sticker is made up of two primary factors: safety and reliability. As truck owners, we do not know which factor is reaching the limit first... Will going 50% over the payload limit cause an unsafe condition? Or does it risk causing mechanical failure? Or both?

Anyway, I would get the truck weighed at a CAT scale. As long as neither axle is over limit, and the GVWR is not exceeded, I would give a little less "weight" to the yellow sticker... Hmm, no front GAWR on your sticker... I'm confused too. Guess I have to go with the yellow sticker after all.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 07:22 AM
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the weight of all the options subtract from the payload rating

the weight rating of all the tires has to exceed the remaining payload rating

the specs are for a new truck, factor in less as the truck gets old and gets high miles....parts wear out...bed cross members rust...springs and shackles weaken...etc
 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 07:49 AM
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The 3250 pound rating is what your model is capable of hauling, if properly equipped.

Every option ( like 4 wheel drive, diesel engine, upgraded audio ) adds weight to the vehicle and subtracts weight from the 3250 pound rating.

Ford has calculated that your vehicle has 1130 pounds worth of optional equipment.

3250 minus 1130 = 2120.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 08:03 AM
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The sticker includes a 150# driver and all tanks full of fluids including fuel.I have a lariat trim and I have a capacity of 2,300. SB 6.7 SC
 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Deederswy
my truck weighs around 6600-6800lbs, so that should still give me a little over 3000lbs payload with a 10,000gvwr!!
Curb weights are a base model fantasy. My Super Cab/Short Bed diesel with a toolbox and a little bit of extra bumper weighed 8300#, base curb weight in the book was 6207#, diesel option bumped the base 6880#:
 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 08:24 AM
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The actual weights and axle loads are only known to the scale. Always... you learn that when you try to match a truck and truck camper.
But more than 1000 lbs less than the expected payload needs an explanation. The TE's truck is an XLT 4x4, and 4x4 is already included in the listed ratings in the first post. A Diesel engine takes away from that, maybe a second alternator, battery, etc... we don't know.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Burro
A Diesel engine takes away from that, maybe a second alternator, battery, etc... we don't know.
Could even be axle gear ratio. A taller gear reduces capacity. That reduction is a reliability derate, trading capacity for mileage. 4.11 has more capacity than 3.73.

Softer-riding springs have less capacity but smoother ride.

Ford makes worksheets for each year and model, that provide capacity changes for each and every option.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 09:43 AM
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The max payload sheet you photo'd was for the base model truck. You probably have a diesel engine, which adds about 800 lbs to the curb weight (taking up some of the available payload). A few more amenities like leather seats, etc, and you lose another couple of hundred.

To really predict the payload number you have to do the ARC/options worksheet and apply those numbers to the base curb weights.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 01:59 PM
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Old Feb 15, 2018 | 02:28 PM
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Your truck has a GVWR of 10,000lbs. the way that yellow sticker is figured goes like this. your truck rolls off the assembly line with all of it's options, plus full on all fluids - gas included. Now i have heard that ford does not include a driver weight and that they do but i have no definitive proof either way. anyhow, they roll it off the line and weigh it. what ever that number is, is then subtracted from 10,000lbs. what remains is your payload. so what that tells you is that ford says your truck off the line(with all fluids and driver?) weighs 7,880lbs. this seem about right as I have the same truck but with the 6.2 which is typically agreed upon weighs 6-7 hundred pounds lighter. I have a payload of just over 2900lbs. the magic number in all of this is that 10,000lbs GVWR, that's the most you will ever have to work with with this truck chassis rating.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by crewsn
Your truck has a GVWR of 10,000lbs. the way that yellow sticker is figured goes like this. your truck rolls off the assembly line with all of it's options, plus full on all fluids - gas included. Now i have heard that ford does not include a driver weight and that they do but i have no definitive proof either way. anyhow, they roll it off the line and weigh it. what ever that number is, is then subtracted from 10,000lbs. what remains is your payload. so what that tells you is that ford says your truck off the line(with all fluids and driver?) weighs 7,880lbs. this seem about right as I have the same truck but with the 6.2 which is typically agreed upon weighs 6-7 hundred pounds lighter. I have a payload of just over 2900lbs. the magic number in all of this is that 10,000lbs GVWR, that's the most you will ever have to work with with this truck chassis rating.
Exactly. Also F350's come with a 10,000 or 11,500 GVWR. The latter may be for DRW trucks.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 12:38 PM
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Our '15 F-350 6.7 4x4 CCLB SRW w/ 3.31 axles is rated at 11,500 GVW. I think the cargo capacity is around 3400 lb. When I weighted it at a CAT scale it was around 8300 lb. if I subtract the Leer cap.
 
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