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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 06:32 PM
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Amen Brother, but I think I would try and tackle the injectors myself $4k hurts too much.
Can anybody confirm that 40psi fuel pressure could cause my problem?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sous
In my opinion, no.

40 PSI, the pressure is not supposed to drop below 52
(I think that is the minimum safe number).

I do not come highly recommended as a mechanic, but for $4000 I would be looking for a second opinion.
That's part of your problem. You said you cleaned the screens in the tank and put them back in. Most folks do the Hutch and Harpoon Mod, which is get rid of the screens, install a new intake tube, divert the return line, and install a pre-filter between the tank and the fuel pump. Not saying that the screens may still be an issue. It's just that by doing what others have done, eliminates them from ever being a problem again.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 08:36 PM
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Fuel pressure range is IIRC 45-65, so if you're only holding 40 psi I'd start there...on my own without the "highly recommended mechanic"! Where did he measure the fuel pressure, pre or post filter? Did you mechanic tell you that 40 psi is bottom of the barrel for our trucks? Did he also happen to explain how New injectors will function properly with only 40 psi fuel pressure?
Now, regarding $4000 of your hard earned dollars. OEM GP's are around $80, what injectors does he recommend that with labor run $3920? Does this include NEW OEM UCVH too?
Pick up your truck and start with the fuel pressure. One problem at a time...
 
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 08:59 PM
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Thanks for all the help guys. If anyone knows a real Powerstroke mechanic in the Raleigh Durham Area let me know. I live near Youngsville NC.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobbie
Thanks for all the help guys. If anyone knows a real Powerstroke mechanic in the Raleigh Durham Area let me know. I live near Youngsville NC.
Ricky, with the help of FTE and a few YouTube videos you're more than able to address these issues. It will save you a lot of money but may cost you a bit more time. s
 
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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 07:28 AM
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If you prime the fuel system engine off and hear the fuel bowl whining the fuel pressure regulator spring is weak. My truck was just getting no boost because the wastegatebsolenoid was broken with no codes just reduced performance. In the radio on position It was cycling was my discovery. Once I put a new one one in 2 minutes my truck had instant power and RPMs to get me going dropped by a lot. If you have never replaced the spring and had the truck a long time replace it anyways. It’s cheap to do it your self project with a quick install plus keeps the injectors well fed and long lasting.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 11:39 AM
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Mechanic pulled injectors in front of me. They are shot. I have a TS 6 chip. I’m getting recommendations to buy Swamps 30% over spilt shot injectors.
Does anyone have advice with what injectors to buy?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 12:21 PM
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How can you tell by looking at them, what do you see?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 01:09 PM
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How can you tell by looking at them, what do you see?
What he said.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2018 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
How can you tell by looking at them, what do you see?
X3? What does a "shot" injector look like? And you still haven't addressed your fuel pressure issue...
 
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Old Apr 5, 2018 | 08:19 PM
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Shot injectors look just like any other stock 7.3 used injector, however they fail injector tests. Thanks for all of you that tried to help diagnose. My highly recommended mechanic hit the nail on the head. Now my truck is running great and makes great boost. I ended up buying the Swamps 175/146 Injectors and had swamps reburn my TS 6 with their tunes to match the single shot injectors.
However now I think I have tuning problem. My transmission shifts perfectly when on stock no matter if wide open throttle or cruising , but anything above stock the shifts are baaad and almost feels like it’s slipping in between higher gears. No matter whether I’m barely on pedal or hitting it hard. It feels like they tried to make the shifts too soft.
Ive heard the old saying well you have more torque now!! Well I’m putting a lot more torque on it at WOT on stock, than babysitting it on LIGHT TUNE and it still screws up.
I’ve emailed the tuning guy at SWAMPS several times but still waiting for a possible solution.
Any helpful information is much appreciated.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2018 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobbie
Shot injectors look just like any other stock 7.3 used injector, however they fail injector tests. Thanks for all of you that tried to help diagnose. My highly recommended mechanic hit the nail on the head. Now my truck is running great and makes great boost. I ended up buying the Swamps 175/146 Injectors and had swamps reburn my TS 6 with their tunes to match the single shot injectors.
However now I think I have tuning problem. My transmission shifts perfectly when on stock no matter if wide open throttle or cruising , but anything above stock the shifts are baaad and almost feels like it’s slipping in between higher gears. No matter whether I’m barely on pedal or hitting it hard. It feels like they tried to make the shifts too soft.
Ive heard the old saying well you have more torque now!! Well I’m putting a lot more torque on it at WOT on stock, than babysitting it on LIGHT TUNE and it still screws up.
I’ve emailed the tuning guy at SWAMPS several times but still waiting for a possible solution.
Any helpful information is much appreciated.















OK. So, did the mechanic address the "LOW" fuel pressure? 40 psi is low. If not, you'll probably be purchasing injectors again sooner rather than later. All of my 7.3's run between 65-68 psi for fuel pressure at idle. The '99 which has 175/80's is set to 68 psi and will drop to about 55 on a WOT run and will drop to about 60 psi while towing 16k up a mountain pass. If yours drops the same amount you'll be in the high 20's which can potentially damage your injectors.

I am almost certain that it is the fuel pump starting to die since I have eliminated all other potential choke points on the '99 with the H&H, Racor PS-120, and regulated return. I have a fuel pump on order.

The H&H is highly recommended to save your injectors from the lack of lubrication that occurs when there is air in the fuel. If that has not been done to your truck, then I will guarantee that there is air in the fuel. The H&H eliminates air for a reasonable price, about $45 and about 2 hours of your time. Low fuel pressure can also cause a lack of lubrication and a lack of cooling at the nozzles.

http://www.riffraffdiesel.com/riffra...-fuel-mod-kit/

The fuel pressure spring upgrade mentioned earlier would also be cheap insurance especially since you are pushing more fuel through the system with the 175's.

http://www.riffraffdiesel.com/upgrad...ing-kit-99-03/

As stated earlier, consider purchasing and installing a fuel pressure gauge and EGT gauge especially now that you are running 175/146 which I think = 175/0's or stock nozzles. You don't want to cook your engine or those new injectors. Swamps builds decent injectors but most of us would have suggested a better performing, cooler running, higher HP and torque capable injector which could also be tuned very close to stock levels.

If the two issues above have not been addressed then the additional fuel could mask the original problem and "if" it is masking it, they are also exacerbating the original problem.

I have two friends that run Swamps tunes with the same injectors that you have. After reading about your experience, I'lll bet the tunes are almost identical. 4 out of 5 of those tunes shift kinda harsh and only one of those tunes keep EGT's in check. They also don't reside within the same tune so they never get the best of both worlds in the same tune. This is after several revisions. The remainder of the tunes cause low ICP followed by ICP spikes at throttle lift which generally means there is a long FIPW in play and high EGT's accompany that most times. The tunes are OK meaning that there are better tunes on the market unless you go to Swamps and get LIVE tuning done. My cousin is running 1023 Diesel tunes and they are a HUGE improvement over Swamps and DP for both shifting and EGT's and the tunes were emailed.

I hope this was helpful and what you were looking for.

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Old Apr 6, 2018 | 08:30 AM
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Thanks for replying. I should have saved you a lot of typing by stating that I already have gauges. And have done the spring kit mod. At wide open throttle fuel pressure never drops below 56. I haven’t seen any EGTS over 1200.
I’m not trying to race just using as a work horse that will hopefully last me a long time.
Hope I can get the guy’s at SWAMPS to straighten out the shifting and I will be happy.
Thanks
 
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Old Apr 6, 2018 | 09:42 AM
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Swamps sells a real good transmission for our trucks! And their tunes work well with them.
 
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