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The mid-sized SUV market where the Explorer and MKT live is a bit more crowded with offerings so it will be hard for Lincoln to distinguish itself unless they can do something amazing with an aluminum body or some other combination of features in a new Aviator. The polarizing looks of the MKT make it almost invisible.
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My Navi lease was up so went to the local dealer to see the new model last week. They only had one 2018 Navi for test drive, they were taking orders with a 3 month wait and no discounts, so 85K for the L model medium trim that basically has everything you need (same as Ford’s platinum).
New model looks nice, but rides a bit tall with the 22’s, and still feel that my 2015 has a smoother ride. Inside everything is more luxurious, but not a big fan of the new navigation screen with giant bezels and a center position that is not ideal for the driver. The panoramic roof that comes standard also a problem for warmer climates like Florida as it lets more heat through.
They didn’t even push for a new sale, so purchased the leased vehicle and moved on ... maybe will be back by year’s end to see if they have any promotions. A middle trim expedition is also an option, but a comparable platinum max is only 10k less than the Navi, very hard to justify.
New model looks nice, but rides a bit tall with the 22’s, and still feel that my 2015 has a smoother ride. Inside everything is more luxurious, but not a big fan of the new navigation screen with giant bezels and a center position that is not ideal for the driver. The panoramic roof that comes standard also a problem for warmer climates like Florida as it lets more heat through.
They didn’t even push for a new sale, so purchased the leased vehicle and moved on ... maybe will be back by year’s end to see if they have any promotions. A middle trim expedition is also an option, but a comparable platinum max is only 10k less than the Navi, very hard to justify.
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The ride height with 22's should not be any different than with smaller diameter wheels but the tires will be shorter and give a harder ride than smaller wheels with taller tires. Even intangibles like new, firmer seat foam may make a difference, as can tire pressures in the demo vehicle.
I drove an MKX with the 22 way power seats last week and was expecting a revelation, but the seats were actually quite firm (but ultra adjustable) and once I put the adjustments where I wanted them (basically all the lumbar support sections deflated) they were good seats but not magical. (I tend to like the larger, softer Expy and Navigator seats better.)
DL, the only comment I can make is that Mdx is comparing Navigator with Navigator where I recall you have Expeditions and the calibrations are gonna be different.
I drove an MKX with the 22 way power seats last week and was expecting a revelation, but the seats were actually quite firm (but ultra adjustable) and once I put the adjustments where I wanted them (basically all the lumbar support sections deflated) they were good seats but not magical. (I tend to like the larger, softer Expy and Navigator seats better.)
DL, the only comment I can make is that Mdx is comparing Navigator with Navigator where I recall you have Expeditions and the calibrations are gonna be different.
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Well seeing as the navi has the ccd, i have driven both the expy platinum with ccd, navi and of course mines with std suspension and 20s. As such, i more than often wish i got the expy with ccd, even with the 22s. The std suspension is firm and at times feels firmer than necessary. It does ride better than my 09 nav, but the floaty hwy ride my navi had is missed at times. The navi amd expy ccd ride great in my opinion and better than the 15 to 17 expy with ccd. I will say my ltd expy seats though are absolutely amazing perfect blend of support and plushness. I found them a tad bit more comfy than the navi 30 way seats.
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My '97 Expy XLT had the best seats of any car that I have ever owned. When you first sat on them, they felt church pew firm. But after driving 17 hours straight from TX to OH, I got out of the truck fresh as a daisy. Not stiff. Not sore.
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