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Old 01-22-2018, 03:18 PM
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So someone needs to smack me. Really hard. Over the weekend I managed to bust the timing cover on my 460 removing the water pump. Don't ask...it was stupid user error. Now I have the fun task of locating one. Since the CA trucks have a slightly different cover this is going to be a big PITA. An initial search came up empty. Think I found one on EBay but will have to verify when I get home.
FYI...make sure all of the bolts are out before trying to remove the water pump....
 
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Old 01-22-2018, 03:31 PM
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Oh man, that really sucks. Good luck with your search.
 
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Is the missing chunk one piece? Wouldn't be easy, but a skilled welder may be able to help you out. Just don't try to get them to do it for $10.
 
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I have a broken water pump bolt on my 95 E350 460 right now and have to pull the timing cover... I got lucky and had only one snap off.... Going to use Anti-Seize when it goes back together!

BTW did your water pump have the back plate on it? When I got mine off, it did not have it. Did some 460's have them or not? If yours does have that back plate, use some JB weld and fix it.
 
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Ford racing makes a replacement backing plate. It's available from several retailers.
 
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94-99 460? Am I learning something I didn't know about what years a 460 was used?
 
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94-99 460? Am I learning something I didn't know about what years a 460 was used?
Their description is off(like most aftermarket) it is 96/97
 
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You're close. It's similar but not quite. Notice the lack of a fuel pump provision on the right and the raised threaded mounting holes on the left side for the crank sensor. The CA trucks never had mechanical fuel pumps. The cover itself would bolt on but I would lose the mounts for the crank sensor and there isn't enough clearance on the right side for the mech fuel pump mount. My bracket for the A/C and P/S is a pretty big one that fits tight against it. If it wasn't for the crank sensor I would just use a standard cover. Alas...I had to be different and buy the CA model...
 
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I have a broken water pump bolt on my 95 E350 460 right now and have to pull the timing cover... I got lucky and had only one snap off.... Going to use Anti-Seize when it goes back together!

BTW did your water pump have the back plate on it? When I got mine off, it did not have it. Did some 460's have them or not? If yours does have that back plate, use some JB weld and fix it.
Yes, there is a backing plate behind the pump. All 460 water pumps have that plate. I just have to clean it up before I reuse it.
 
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Buried somewhere in my grey matter I remember putting a fuel pump on a 460 econoline once. It was a completely different pump than pickups of the same year and IIRC, mounted different on the timing cover. Probably no help.
 
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You're close. It's similar but not quite. Notice the lack of a fuel pump provision on the right and the raised threaded mounting holes on the left side for the crank sensor. The CA trucks never had mechanical fuel pumps. The cover itself would bolt on but I would lose the mounts for the crank sensor and there isn't enough clearance on the right side for the mech fuel pump mount. My bracket for the A/C and P/S is a pretty big one that fits tight against it. If it wasn't for the crank sensor I would just use a standard cover. Alas...I had to be different and buy the CA model...
If you notice there IS provisions for the crank sensor and they are also giving you a fuel pump block of plate, They were smart. Made one cover for all the years

Right from their ad.....

"Aftermarket replacement for OEM # F6TZ 6019 MA (that has been discontinued).

Ford 460 cid / 7.5L with California emissions

F150, F250, F350, F450

1994 - 1999

Note the sensor mounting holes at 10 and 11 o'clock to the front seal area."
 
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A note about those studs sticking out the bottom of the front cover. You will have to drop the oil pan in the front to install this timing cover, or drill those two holes in the oil pan larger; because those studs need to be installed first. You would think that you can drop the bottom in first with those studs in their holes in the oil pan, but the crankshaft doesn't allow it. The cover needs to be installed straight on. For some reason they drilled and tapped those two holes larger than the bolts used on our year trucks; instead of supplying washers to makeup for using a smaller bolt in the older applications.

I discovered this when I replaced my water pump, and decided to install a new cover. I still don't have bolts in those two holes.

 
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