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Old Jan 20, 2018 | 06:05 PM
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2010 6.0 no start

Ok so I replced FICM, EBP SENSOR, AND PIGTAIL, ICP SENSOR, AIR FILTER, CHANGED OIL, AND OIL FILTER, DRAINED FUEL WATER SEPARATER.
STILL WONT START.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 07:01 AM
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Hi, glad you found this forum. I'm another newbie but have been through this once myself.

Do you have a monitor like scangauge, forscan or torque? Do you have a fuel pressure gauge? What is your voltage, RPM, fuel pressure and high oil pressure while trying to start? Injectors are not actuated unless supporting levels are met.

What has the temperature been where you are working on the truck?

When did the truck last run and when was this work done? 2010 6.0 is in a van?

Sounds like you have been reading the tech folder sticky in this forum but if you haven't, there's a lot of good information in there.

The experts here are probably going to be more interested in your diagnostic work than your parts replaced.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 11:34 AM
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Geez, a ot of questions,
ok I'm in South Florida temp is fine.
my friend scanned it
it was a ICP sensor.
then A evo sensor.
I have no other night tech guages
 
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 11:39 AM
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Sorry EBP SENSOR. All replaced.
since I DRAINED the Fuel water SEPARATER, I had to prime the pump, didn' start, so I put a little starter fluid in.
no start DRAINED battery.
it' on a battery charger now, till I figure out my next move.
a egr Delete kit , was put on in July, plus new ,turbo, oil cooler, starter, etc Here is all the work that was done in July
 
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 11:41 AM
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 03:34 PM
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I went and bought a scan gauge 2.
programmed it.
now what should I do ?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 04:49 PM
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I went and bought a scan gauge 2.
programmed it.
now what should I do ?
Download Forscan to a laptop and get a ELM327 for the OBDII port to check for codes before you throw another kitchen sink at this truck.

SCII is a poor code reader.

Don't run the batteries down, it's a FICM killer.
Don't use starter fluid, it's an engine killer and dangerous. Brake clean is a safer alternative if you must.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 05:06 PM
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Im out of money and out of patience
 
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 06:20 PM
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https://www.scangauge.com/x-gauge-commands/6-0l-diesel/

Here are some commands to get info from the scangauge. There is a lot of scangauge info here on the forum also if you look. Scangauge, ironically, is more of a monitor than a scanner. You can monitor live data but you can't scan for codes. Forscan is a lot cheaper and more versatile.

Slow down and study this for a while. Impulsive buying can get really expensive with trucks these days. Buying the wrong parts can cause more problems than they fix.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 06:29 PM
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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...r-dummies.html

Here is a thread to start with. Search for scangauge and no start.

There are two sync signals to look at. Two FICM voltages and Battery voltage. High oil pressure and cranking RPM. More I am probably not remembering.

You may be able to rent an oil pressure tester to test your fuel pressure.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 10:09 PM
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Im out of money and out of patience
Indeed, might also look for another shop to do your work.

When I see things like "egr cooler busted" in the narrative, I have visions of Clyde with a shop rag hanging out his back pocket and a digit or two missing.

The fact they diagnose seized turbo vanes but didn't offer an option to clean it if possible, rather throw a whole turbo at it makes me wonder what might have happened to possibly precipitate your current issues.

If that invoice is yours, I would advise covering up the name and phone number. No need to invite some jerk the chance to start spamming. Lot of creeps out there anymore.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by navistarnut
Indeed, might also look for another shop to do your work.

When I see things like "egr cooler busted" in the narrative, I have visions of Clyde with a shop rag hanging out his back pocket and a digit or two missing.

The fact they diagnose seized turbo vanes but didn't offer an option to clean it if possible, rather throw a whole turbo at it makes me wonder what might have happened to possibly precipitate your current issues.

If that invoice is yours, I would advise covering up the name and phone number. No need to invite some jerk the chance to start spamming. Lot of creeps out there anymore.
this work was done in July.
I just wanted to show the evolution of my repairs.
so as to get answers for 2days problems
 
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I would take a look at the Vref voltage as there has been ICP and EBP errors both have Vref
You can check this with a voltmeter 5v max
The other Vref points are Baro, Map and APP and EGR
It's a common voltage to all so if one is off it will throw codes for others

Sound familiar Navistarnut?


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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OZLARIAT
I would take a look at the Vref voltage as there has been ICP and EBP errors both have Vref
You can check this with a voltmeter 5v max
The other Vref points are Baro, Map and APP and EGR
It's a common voltage to all so if one is off it will throw codes for others

Sound familiar Navistarnut?


Richard
what is Vref, Baro, app ?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2018 | 10:41 PM
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Take a look at the wiring diagram
the blue line is the 5 volt reference votltage Vref
The senders/sensors are listed there
Baro is after the air cleaner Map is on the firewall with hose attached
App is accelerator pedal
 
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