starter upgrade?
#16
#17
The 6.7 starter has better brushes for more contact area, a larger support bearing, and increased loaded speed (larger diameter pinion) but can be adapted to work on a 7.3. The cones are different so you need a 6.7 starter AND a 2 bolt 7.3 OSGR starter and you will take parts off the 7.3 so it will bolt up correctly. They are both OSGR.
The one main difference is the 6.7 starter has a higher peak stall current than the OSGR 7.3 starter but given the loaded speed is higher would make sense.
Starter wise, I have used the knock off DB electrical high torque 4.36kW, genuine Denso, TYC OSGR, Ford oem reman Mitsubishi PLGR, and 6.7mod genuine Ford. After taking apart a few Denso high torque knock offs that failed I would never get a Denso unless it was guaranteed genuine. The bearings in the look alikes are junk, brushes wear down fast, solenoids have sticking issues, and some have bendix issues.
I have noticed the Denso starter seems to loosen the starter bolts, we will see with the 6.7.
#18
The 6.7 starter has better brushes for more contact area, a larger support bearing, and increased loaded speed (larger diameter pinion) but can be adapted to work on a 7.3. The cones are different so you need a 6.7 starter AND a 2 bolt 7.3 OSGR starter and you will take parts off the 7.3 so it will bolt up correctly. They are both OSGR.
The one main difference is the 6.7 starter has a higher peak stall current than the OSGR 7.3 starter but given the loaded speed is higher would make sense.
Starter wise, I have used the knock off DB electrical high torque 4.36kW, genuine Denso, TYC OSGR, Ford oem reman Mitsubishi PLGR, and 6.7mod genuine Ford. After taking apart a few Denso high torque knock offs that failed I would never get a Denso unless it was guaranteed genuine. The bearings in the look alikes are junk, brushes wear down fast, solenoids have sticking issues, and some have bendix issues.
I have noticed the Denso starter seems to loosen the starter bolts, we will see with the 6.7.
The one main difference is the 6.7 starter has a higher peak stall current than the OSGR 7.3 starter but given the loaded speed is higher would make sense.
Starter wise, I have used the knock off DB electrical high torque 4.36kW, genuine Denso, TYC OSGR, Ford oem reman Mitsubishi PLGR, and 6.7mod genuine Ford. After taking apart a few Denso high torque knock offs that failed I would never get a Denso unless it was guaranteed genuine. The bearings in the look alikes are junk, brushes wear down fast, solenoids have sticking issues, and some have bendix issues.
I have noticed the Denso starter seems to loosen the starter bolts, we will see with the 6.7.
#19
#20
Good source for cables.
Not sure if we have a vendor that does this service as well.
Custom Battery Cables F350 cables
Not sure if we have a vendor that does this service as well.
Custom Battery Cables F350 cables
#22
I agree on that!!! There are other options, but I didn't have time to look them up.
I opted to just buy cable, military clamps, ring terminals, shrink tubing and a cheap hydraulic crimper. It makes some real nice cables and is one of my favorite tools.
I have built 3-4 complete setups for different rigs as well as repaired some for friends and family.
I opted to just buy cable, military clamps, ring terminals, shrink tubing and a cheap hydraulic crimper. It makes some real nice cables and is one of my favorite tools.
I have built 3-4 complete setups for different rigs as well as repaired some for friends and family.
#23
#24
I didn't read the rest of the thread but those clamps are absolutely junk after a few months. The lead and copper start to oxidize and impede current flow from copper to the lead. That being said when i got my truck it had a single battery and those terminals and still started. It was slower, but still worked.
#25
I've used these cables on 3 trucks now without any issues. Starting down to -1F without plugging in and no issues (used on both IDIs and Powerstrokes)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Standard-A1...5aAa~C&vxp=mtr
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Battery-Cab...tZ-v-5&vxp=mtr
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Battery-Cab...JZ~ACs&vxp=mtr
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Standard-A1...5aAa~C&vxp=mtr
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Battery-Cab...tZ-v-5&vxp=mtr
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Battery-Cab...JZ~ACs&vxp=mtr
#27
Honestly, good batteries and replacing all my cables (including the starter) with 3/0 cable with good clamps was one of the best things I have done on my 89 F350 IDIT.
3/0 is overkill, but in cold temps, I'll take all the help I can get...
It cranks over pretty darn fast for an old diesel.
I know, I know, not a Powerstroke... but it still applies.
This is the cable I bought:
These are the terminals I bought:
3/0 is overkill, but in cold temps, I'll take all the help I can get...
It cranks over pretty darn fast for an old diesel.
I know, I know, not a Powerstroke... but it still applies.
This is the cable I bought:
These are the terminals I bought:
#28
Well, I was searching out info on starters again and found I asked the question already. I replaced the cables, the batts and still have a slow start up. I think it must be my starter. Imstill confused a little. I can get a 2 bolt 2000 to 2004 SD starter. and bolt it right up with a little clearancing of the cable eye..... The starter is heaver and has caused parts to break in the past on some? I can also go 6.7L starter but I would need a 7.3 SD starter nose cone and put it on the 6.7 starters. In the end, My assumptions are the 6.7 cost more, they both spin the same or the 6.7 just a tad faster. the 6.7 should last longer. Denso hi torque staters can be found new or rebuilt. may or may not be the real thing? Yes or no? Am I over thinking it?