Rust
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Now in Texas they use salt brine and water like this article mentions they do in the northern states. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...dd2_story.html
Interesting and never would have thought about Arizona using it, read the article to the end.
Interesting and never would have thought about Arizona using it, read the article to the end.
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From: Calgary Canada
Depending on the stuff your local municipality or state uses, there are a few different types, and none are really good news.
My city actually uses a solution made from sugar beets that isn't a true brine and it's intention isn't to melt the snow, but rather to make the snow stick less to the roadways and be blown or plowed away more easily. I'm not sure how well it works. We also use traditional solid salt (usually mixed with gravel). Some nearby cities use a liquid salt (Brine).
Overall, none of this stuff is a big concern if you get it washed off regularly. And all of it is a problem if it sits on your truck all winter.
My city actually uses a solution made from sugar beets that isn't a true brine and it's intention isn't to melt the snow, but rather to make the snow stick less to the roadways and be blown or plowed away more easily. I'm not sure how well it works. We also use traditional solid salt (usually mixed with gravel). Some nearby cities use a liquid salt (Brine).
Overall, none of this stuff is a big concern if you get it washed off regularly. And all of it is a problem if it sits on your truck all winter.
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From: Abilene TX.
Yes even out here in Abilene they are using Brine spray. All they have to do is forcast the possiblity of ice or snow and they are out spraying that crap. 90% of the time we get neither but they have still sprayed it. In the city proper they do both spray and scatter on all major intersections. At least they wait till there is some on the graund before spreading sand and gravel.
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From: Mts. S. of San Francisco
Does anyone ever ask (or care) what all the salt/brine does to the surrounding (potentially farm ground) and/or lakes? Dumping salt into a fresh water lake can't possibly be a good thing?
We are not nearly as cold here, but we live in the coastal mountains, and we get snow a few times a year. What they spread on the roads is just plain sand, which seems to provide plenty of grip as far as I can tell (I've never been afraid that I might slide off the road for example).
We are not nearly as cold here, but we live in the coastal mountains, and we get snow a few times a year. What they spread on the roads is just plain sand, which seems to provide plenty of grip as far as I can tell (I've never been afraid that I might slide off the road for example).
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From: Hendersonville, TN (near
Cheapest way is to use one of those little tanks with spray wand that you use to spray insecticide around the house but the more you turn it into a fine mist or fog the less product you use. I use an air compressor with one of these spray handles that has a hose on the bottom that sucks up liquid and it all comes out of the handle as a mist (this is an old one I had on hand to take a picture of so you get an idea).
I had thought the cost of the treatment may be lessened since the aluminum would not need treatment. When I talked to Ziebart about pricing I mentioned the totally aluminum cab and bed. Didn't seem to even listen. Sounded like they would make the same treatment steps even if the truck were made of plastic.
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From: Rochester,NY
Rust Proofing
Hi,
Ziebart does a good job, talk to someone else or his Manager they are trying to get back in the Market
being bigger and better you just want your Frame and other components done,tell them that ,they will
do what you want and reduce the cost,They will do a better job with the Truck up on a lift I've done it
on a Creeper trying to get everything its not easy plus they give you a Guarantee.
Ziebart does a good job, talk to someone else or his Manager they are trying to get back in the Market
being bigger and better you just want your Frame and other components done,tell them that ,they will
do what you want and reduce the cost,They will do a better job with the Truck up on a lift I've done it
on a Creeper trying to get everything its not easy plus they give you a Guarantee.
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Now in Texas they use salt brine and water like this article mentions they do in the northern states. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...dd2_story.html
Interesting and never would have thought about Arizona using it, read the article to the end.
Interesting and never would have thought about Arizona using it, read the article to the end.
O.P. the biggest issue is the frames. Their coating is thin with a lot of bare spots, and it will rust. They are using very thin metal on the new frames, so it won't take as long to rust through, unless you take precautions. My choice was to paint the outside with a good catalyzed paint, then spray oil on the inside of frame. If you use a similar method, I would expect it to last a very long time. Do nothing and drive in the salt belt, and I would expect it to be scrap in ten years or less.
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Most of the brines use a blend of salts. Sodium Chloride, Potassium Chloride, and Magnesium Chloride are most common. All are extremely corrosive to vehicles, and all are bad for our ecosystem. I'm no treehugger, but when it reaches a tipping point, it's going to be a massive environmental crisis. It is insanity and it needs to stop.
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From: Hendersonville, TN (near
I will call them again today. Thanks for the thought,
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Living in NE Ohio, I undercoat my vehicles (both car and F150) with NHoilundercoating.com
It works perfectly.
Also did light research on Petroleum Service Company's undercoating-in-a-can. Close to the same type stuff. But haven't use PSCs stuff because NHOU works so well.
It works perfectly.
Also did light research on Petroleum Service Company's undercoating-in-a-can. Close to the same type stuff. But haven't use PSCs stuff because NHOU works so well.
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From: Hendersonville, TN (near
Something I thought I asked, but did not get an answer. I see Line-X provides undercoating service. I ASSUME it is using their bedliner type material. To me it sort of goes against everything I thought I knew about rust. If you coat over existing rust it will just continue to rust and you will not see it until it is too late.
Does anyone know about Line-X service for rust treatment?
Does anyone know about Line-X service for rust treatment?
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From: Hendersonville, TN (near
Called mt local Ziebart about only treating the under carriage. Not interested. They stand by the whole truck still needs to be treated regardless of what it is made of. That is paraphrasing , of course. A disappointing, non-technical answer to my request. Unfortunately, Ziebart seems to be my only option here in Nashville.