The towing guide show 3 different numbers for 5th wheel. It says to look in owners manual to determine yours. My manual show 23500 for F250 diesel. On the chart it does not have that number. I know 1 of the 3 is with tow package that I don't have so it leaves 22500 or 23100. So what one is correct?

 

will this help?
http://webcontent.goodsam.com/traile...wGuide2017.pdf

 

You'll be over your GVWR well before you hit those towing numbers on a F250.

 

That shows a lower tow rating with the tow package than without.

 

F-250 is max 10,000lbs GVWR.

 

This is the Ford guide: https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...wing_Guide.pdf

See Page 21 for conventional (bumper pull), page 22 for 5th wheel.

As an example, my conventional trailer capacity is 18k and the GCWR is 28,700. I have the 4x4, 176" wheelbase, 3.55 axle, diesel F-350 with 18" tires. Yours will depend on wheelbase, bed size and cab size, axle ratio and engine.

 

The way I'm reading it is your GCWR = 22,500 lbs. with a maximum loaded trailer weight of 14,700 lbs. This represents the highest possible weight of a loaded trailer the vehicle can tow, based on a minimum towing vehicle GVW. It assumes a vehicle with any mandatory options, no cargo, a pin weight of 15% and a 150 pound driver only. Additional options, passengers, cargo, and the hitch must be deducted from this amount.
HOWEVER!
Look on the safety compliance certification labels located on the driver door pillar. You'll see front and rear GAWR and GVWR values that cannot be exceeded. And finally, take a look at the cargo capacity label on the door pillar. The total weight of options, passengers, cargo, hitch, and pin weight cannot exceed this amount.
If your truck has a cargo capacity of 2000 lbs., subtract hitch weight (say 250 lbs.), passengers (200 lbs.), cargo (500 lbs.), that means you have enough cargo capacity (in this example with made up numbers) for a pin weight of 1000 lbs. So with a pin weight limited to 1000 lbs. maximum, you are limited to a fully loaded trailer weighing 15,000 lbs.
So, while the GAWR and GVWR are important numbers that should not be exceeded, you are going to run out of cargo carrying capacity long before you hit the limits on those numbers.

 

I am not asking for the cargo weight. There are 2 numbers that are listed as GCWR under my CCSWB 4X4 Deisel. My concern is that number and my RAWR of 6340. There is a 600lb difference from 22500 and 23100 in the Ford towing guide.

FWIW I have had my truck weighed and I have ~1650 cargo capacity with 2 passengers 3/4 tank of fuel. I will using an Andersen hitch.

 

The difference is if you have the tow package or not.

 

And based on the information you supplied, I answered your question as thoroughly and as accurately as I could.

 

 

I had a 17 F-350 SRW, and i was about maxed without the wife and kid, or packed to go camping. I now have a drw.

 

 

Exactly. A F250 is worthless, except to avoid registration taxes. A F350 is basically the same price.

 

Not worthless It is fine if you only tow light like I do, 6000lb tt and dont need anything bigger. It is worthless for a 5er though imo. especially after seeing the one that wrecked towing a TH 5er.